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About 4 months ago we picked up a 3yr old Staffy / Lab cross male from a local rescue.
He's house trained and we've never had a problem with him during the daytime, even when left for a couple of hours.
The trouble is he's started peeing on the floor in the kitchen during the night.
Judging by the amount, I think he may be "marking" although he was already chopped when we got him.
He can also go weeks without doing it and then do 2-3 times within days, then weeks again (which is why I've not taken him for a check for urinary infection, it would be constant surely)

Any Idea's would be be welcome ...

Gingazz ....
 
We had a rescue lab start doing this, I did take him to the vet to be checked, he was fine.
We cured him by letting him sleep in the bedroom, he didn't do it there, ever!
 
Hi, thanks for the quick reply.
I let my last dog sleep in bedroom, ( she only passed a few months ago at 14yrs) and it became a real issue when she became old and incontinent.
So I'm really not keen on going down that route again, he's in a crate with door left open but with kitchen door closed.
We started confining him to kitchen when we discovered he was peeing at bottom of stairs during night.
As i said in the original post it's the on/off nature of it that's proving baffling .......
 
What’s his general nature like?

My 3 y/o rescue Staff used to mark inside (probably for the first couple of months) as well but also refused to be crated.

Can’t say I have any magic tips but if I caught him cocking his leg on anything he’d get a real telling off. He also tried to mark me once or twice for which he got a kick up the backside.

I treated him marking and him having a proper wee on the floor as two different incidences. The few times he did a genuine wee, I accepted that it was my fault for either not getting him out soon enough or him legitimately not knowing he can’t go when and where he likes anymore (he came from kennels) and didn’t make a fuss.
 
He's a bit full on when out, but okay around the house ... in all other respects he's house trained
Yeah that's what I'm doing, just cleaning it up and not fussing.
As I say it never happens other than in the middle of the night so I can't ******* him in the act as it were.
I'm pretty sure it's marking just because its not the largest puddle ever and usually against the same kitchen unit and previously the same cupboard upstairs.
He does seem to mark a lot when being walked ( although my experience is mostly with a Bitch)
I've also been monitoring his water intake (about 700ml a day) which doesn't seem excessive for a 20-21kg dog and the time of his last walk seems to have no bearing on whether he does or doesn't do it.
 
The most reliable way I have found to deal with this is confine them to their beds overnight, either by crating or wedging something to keep them in. Not many dogs, if any with pee on their own beds, and once they have managed through the night for several months you can relax the regime a bit. And make sure anything soiled has been thoroughly cleaned with biological washing powder, not something that might possibly contain ammonia - to them that smells similar to urine so encourages marking
 
If nothing else works that's what the plan is, to shut the door on his crate ( which we only bought for car travel originally ) ..... we just don't want to go down that route without trying not to.....
We've been using one of the enzyme sprays to clean up so all good there.

Thanx for all the advice.
 
i would say shut the crate door overnight until he has got out of the habit...if he has had plenty of exercise he should be happy just to sleep. if you think it could be separation anxiety why not leave a radio on very low ...
 
gingazz said:
About 4 months ago we picked up a 3yr old Staffy / Lab cross male from a local rescue.
He's house trained and we've never had a problem with him during the daytime, even when left for a couple of hours.
The trouble is he's started peeing on the floor in the kitchen during the night.
Judging by the amount, I think he may be "marking" although he was already chopped when we got him.
He can also go weeks without doing it and then do 2-3 times within days, then weeks again (which is why I've not taken him for a check for urinary infection, it would be constant surely)

Any Idea's would be be welcome ...

Gingazz ....
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Personally I would not have a young dog loose in the house due to destructibility and carnage and damage and messes.

I would get yourself a cage till he is fully trustworthy - or you are going to have a lot of cleaning up and damaged carpets and chewed things, what size is the crate? - most likely too small for overnight sleeping - have a large one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dog-Cage...hash=item20f8a1f45a:m:mHTWZeEvlEF8ZA9yB-4_5UA
 
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He's not loose in the house , he's in a very small kitchen overnight, in his (open crate ). He has not chewed or pissed or invited friends around for a "grime" party. Also yet again he is 3 yrs old.
 
In your shoes I would close the front of the cage till he can be trusted I have only just recently removed out big cage till we were in a better place with the dog. ours is coming up 4years
 
Pearlsasinger said:
I would shut him into the crate overnight. I don't really understand why you would prefer not to.
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Mine moves around in the night. He is fluffy and gets hot on a cosy bed so pops off to dump heat on the floor for a while. He also wanders into the kitchen for a little drink and just generally has a stretch sometimes.

Personally I wouldn't crate for that.

How (does) he ask to go out for a wee in the daytime? If he doesn't have access to you in the night then he can't do it (ask I mean) then I'd guess... If it is really marking rather than weeing I'd assume stress. Not necessarily a huge trauma - my rehomed chap used to be scared of a couple of things that I found hard to identify (and which fortunately now barely register with him) but it might not be anything obvious to you, just a noise (fox etc) outside/change in routine...
 
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I think you might be on the button GirlFriday .... he doesn't really ask during the day, he just waits for his regular walk time(s).
Last night he did nothing in the house .......
Before we started locking him in the kitchen overnight, he was doing it at the bottom of the stairs going up to the bedroom ( all the doors are open .. he could have just trotted up and did the first few nights we had him)
I'm starting to think he slept upstairs with his last family ( he was advertised as "child friendly blue staffy" by the rescue) ... I think a noise or something is giving him a bit of a brain fart now and again.
If he is really peeing because he's desperate then we'll just have to grin and bare it ... I'm not getting up at 3am to go for a walk ..... had that when last dog was on her way out.
At least it's a tiled floor ..... every cloud and all that .....
 
GirlFriday said:
Mine moves around in the night. He is fluffy and gets hot on a cosy bed so pops off to dump heat on the floor for a while. He also wanders into the kitchen for a little drink and just generally has a stretch sometimes.

Personally I wouldn't crate for that.

How (does) he ask to go out for a wee in the daytime? If he doesn't have access to you in the night then he can't do it (ask I mean) then I'd guess... If it is really marking rather than weeing I'd assume stress. Not necessarily a huge trauma - my rehomed chap used to be scared of a couple of things that I found hard to identify (and which fortunately now barely register with him) but it might not be anything obvious to you, just a noise (fox etc) outside/change in routine...
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The answer to that is to have a crate which is big enough to allow a cooler patch as well as the bed. We have 2 Rottweilers sharing a double crate - they sleep together in one half and can cool down if they need to in the other side.
 
But pearlsasinger I don't *want* to crate. His habits aren't in any way a bother to me but do demonstrate that he likes to have the odd mooch around at night. I'd also have nowhere to *put* a crate big enough. A soft bed pad on the floor that can go under the table is one thing - a huge cage another! My dog is strictly a pet so if we're both happy that is all that matters.
 
I'm new on this forum, so I haven't figured out quoting parts of a message yet but I'd guess stress too. You mentioned having your previous dog in your room; if you could do that to reassure him when he wakes you could gradually move his bed, maybe just a couple of feet at a time, to where you want him to sleep. Make sure you clean any accidents with a bio cleaner to totally remove any traces of smell. And I know you said you just clean up with no fuss but I wanted to reiterate that if we do tell our dogs off for toileting accidents we risk them learning to fear out reaction to their toilet. They don't differentiate that it's the location we are unhappy about, rather than the toilet itself. So they may create opportunities to toilet when we are absent, such as waiting until we leave or sneaking off to another room. You want them to TELL you when they need to toilet; not avoid you, so a row or boot up the backside can be counterproductive.
 
Our rescue dogs often did this if they have been kenneled for a while. Ours certainly did at night but not during the day. To get her out of doing this I fed her a good breakfast and fed her a small tea after her evening walk which his around 5pm so she has a drink and her tea after and this gives her time to digest everything. I then put her out every hour until I go to bed at about 10.30. This has put her into a routine and not had any accident for a while. If the dog needs the toilet the dog needs the toilet whether you crate or not. Its just cracking that routine. Taking out for a walk later in the evening probably means drinking water later which wont help.
 
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