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oldie48

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We have our daughter's 9 month old vizla staying for a week whilst she is away. We have an elderly BT, both dogs know each other quite well and have stayed together at each other's houses and also on holiday but they just don't get on. Both dogs are fine with every other dog they've met! Big problem is Vizla tries to hump BT and BT just gets very fed up. Any ideas would be gratefully received otherwise it's going to be a very long week!
 
I'd instill manners in the vizla re humping - and only let them together when supervised, if I even let them together supervised!
 
Stop him humping, no wonder old dog hates it. Try telling him off (I accept that may be an unacceptable suggestion on here!!). And yes to seperating themw henever you are not there to stop him.
 
We don't let them be together without supervision and immediately stop the humping with a firm NO and a water spray, it stops it for about 2 minutes then it starts again, Viz is extremely persistent and I'm not blaming BT at all. It is just exhausting. Any better ideas, please?
Just to make it clear we are reasonably experienced owners and are not afraid of telling dogs (or horses for that matter) off.
 
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I would smack him, tbh. You may have to tie him up or crate him so he cannot physically get to your dog? Has he had plenty of exercise today, does he do any brain work, could he go and hunt for things so he is more tired.
 
Ok so spraying water and smacking is not going to help, the dog is only 9 months old! There could be a variety of reasons for the humping, young dogs especially can get over excited ( not in a sexual way) and one of the ways it manifests itself is humping or there is the possibility there is an issue with your BT. My lad will hump my lurcher girl when her anal glands need emptying, so if she smells ' funny' that could cause it.

As he is only with you temporarily, keep them apart, maybe using a baby gate to give them separate areas. If that is not possible, keep a house line on the Vizla and call him off when he starts and give him something else to do - a chew/kong etc. I would get your girl checked out, in case there is an issue you are not aware of ( anal glands/UTI etc).
 
I wouldn't allow this, if the Viszla is persistent then I would keep them separate at all times, your old dog is entitled to some peace and if you allowed this to continue it could be responsible for making your dog dog aggressive.

It may well be a long week but your dogs well being should come first.
 
oldie48 said:
We don't let them be together without supervision and immediately stop the humping with a firm NO and a water spray, it stops it for about 2 minutes then it starts again, Viz is extremely persistent and I'm not blaming BT at all. It is just exhausting. Any better ideas, please?
Just to make it clear we are reasonably experienced owners and are not afraid of telling dogs (or horses for that matter) off.
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I was about to post the suggestion of using a bit of aversion therapy with a water spray OP but I see you're already trying this and it's not having much effect.

Perhaps playing/training indoors with both dogs together, using little food rewards and reward each if they do a sit or down or short down/stay. If your BT does this already then maybe the Viz will be interested in doing this too for the reward. If you keep the rewards on you, teach the Viz to come back to you every time it tries to hump your BT and reward accordingly. Make the viz coming to you more interesting than humping the BT.
 
Teaselmeg said:
Ok so spraying water and smacking is not going to help, the dog is only 9 months old! There could be a variety of reasons for the humping, young dogs especially can get over excited ( not in a sexual way) and one of the ways it manifests itself is humping or there is the possibility there is an issue with your BT. My lad will hump my lurcher girl when her anal glands need emptying, so if she smells ' funny' that could cause it.

As he is only with you temporarily, keep them apart, maybe using a baby gate to give them separate areas. If that is not possible, keep a house line on the Vizla and call him off when he starts and give him something else to do - a chew/kong etc. I would get your girl checked out, in case there is an issue you are not aware of ( anal glands/UTI etc).
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Completely agree with this. As your daughter's dog is only with you temporarily, I would try tiring the Vizla through exercise and training/scentwork and keeping separately to your dog the rest of the time, or keep the Vizla on a house line so you can interrupt the unwanted behaviour and redirect on to something more appropriate such as a treat or toy.
 
Thanks, he doesn't hump other dogs so I think you are right in suggesting it's something to do with our BT, he's had to have his anal glands emptied so he may need them done again. Both dogs are well trained friendly dogs and the reason I posted is that I am not going to let my BT be treated like this as it's completely unacceptable. Hence my request for some suggestions. I crate the Viz if he continues the behaviour and he's just had some fun in the field and is a little more settled. It would be nice if they could live together peacefully as I know my daughter would prefer him to come to us rather than go into kennels but it just may not be possible.!
Teaselmeg said:
Ok so spraying water and smacking is not going to help, the dog is only 9 months old! There could be a variety of reasons for the humping, young dogs especially can get over excited ( not in a sexual way) and one of the ways it manifests itself is humping or there is the possibility there is an issue with your BT. My lad will hump my lurcher girl when her anal glands need emptying, so if she smells ' funny' that could cause it.

As he is only with you temporarily, keep them apart, maybe using a baby gate to give them separate areas. If that is not possible, keep a house line on the Vizla and call him off when he starts and give him something else to do - a chew/kong etc. I would get your girl checked out, in case there is an issue you are not aware of ( anal glands/UTI etc).
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Dobiegirl said:
I wouldn't allow this, if the Viszla is persistent then I would keep them separate at all times, your old dog is entitled to some peace and if you allowed this to continue it could be responsible for making your dog dog aggressive.

It may well be a long week but your dogs well being should come first.
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Thanks you, my BT does come first and I don't allow the behaviour. I am asking for suggestions not judgements as I'd like them to coexist peacefully if possible but I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
 
oldie48 said:
Thanks you, my BT does come first and I don't allow the behaviour. I am asking for suggestions not judgements as I'd like them to coexist peacefully if possible but I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
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Where have I made a judgement, I made it brief and to the point and I said IF you allowed the behaviour to continue what the likely outcome might be.
 
It's only a week, keep them separate. Tedious, but I doubt you'd solve an issue like humping within that time and yea, your BT may well start snapping. My older dog was given 'big dog time' with us, separate to the pups until he was reconciled to their presence, but that was for the long haul. For a week, stick the youngster in the kitchen. I wouldn't crate except for night times, it's not a punishment and you don't want to make him think it is.
 
Thanks for all your advice. It's been a bit like having the grandchildren to stay, difficult to get them used to how we do things! Viz is a lovely dog, very trainable and has a great temperament. I took him for a walk this evening and he was great fun, he wants to please. OH was able to give BT lots of time on his own. We'll survive the week and I bet it's a lot better by next Saturday than it's been this afternoon!!
 
I'm sure it will settle down. I HATE humping, it is to me the most irritating thing a dog can do to another dog. (I get the impression you agree!).
As long as the vizla can learn go and lie down anything is possible. :-)
 
Just come in from sitting out in the courtyard. Viz, BT and our neighbour's collie bitch all sitting quietly whilst we eat cake and natter. First thing, OH took viz into the big field and chucked a tennis ball, after breakfast I took him for along walk then OH took BT for his walk. So they have had plenty of time apart. Viz is more settled today and I am feeling a lot less frazzled. He's a young dog and it's the first time without his mum and dad so it's good to see him becoming a more relaxed. I do wonder if the humping is about excitement and a bit of nervousness and as he settles it will diminish. Not letting them be on their own though!
Clodagh said:
I'm sure it will settle down. I HATE humping, it is to me the most irritating thing a dog can do to another dog. (I get the impression you agree!).
As long as the vizla can learn go and lie down anything is possible. :-)
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I think youve already cracked it but just to add my tuppence worth...As its a relatively short period I would keep them separated by a baby gate whenever youre not around, plenty of exercise, physical and mental for the Vizla and stand for no nonsense. I agree with you that by next weekend things will be a lot easier as they settle down together.
 
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A bit more peaceful!
 
Just an update really, Viz goes home tomorrow and he's been a delight except for the humping. I do think it's our BT's anal glands (so thanks for whoever suggested that). We are a bit exhausted as he needs lots of exercise but he is a lovely natured dog. It's prompted us to look at our BT's diet again so there might be a gain for the BT! What has been a bit challenging is finding walks off lead without stiles etc I am so used to just lifting the BT over them! Thanks for all your help!
 
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