Domosedan and clipping

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So clipping time - the one thing I don't enjoy with my TB.

Been struggling (literally a fight every year) with Sedalin which I've now taken as a complete waste of time. Domosedan has been mentioned to me.

He's been sedated once by the vet and I understand that Domosedan contains the same ingredient and he was fully sedated, nose touching the floor etc.

What he hates about clipping is the vibration against his skin, it sends him into a hurling durbish, kicking out and getting very upset. Even now, unclipped, doing his rugs up and touching his sides he flicks likes he's been bitten by a horse fly. But he's only this sensitive in winter, in summer he's fine. Weird.

Any how, just hoping that his adrenalin doesn't knock out the effects of the sedative in Domosedan. Anyone got any advice? Got the whole thing with removing food and planning on doing it late morning so he's got the rest of the day in the stable to recover.

I'm picking up some pocket trimmers too, just to have them in reserve. I once did his whole belly in them, and he was pretty good (with Sedalin too I might add).

Can help but love them!
 
I used it for my horse who is bonkers about having ears/armpits and willy area done. It was brilliant and although he was aware of what I was doing, he let me spend an hour clipping him. It was fab.

You must get it under the tongue though and it doesn't work for all horses.
 
Thanks Carolineb, fingers crossed it will work for him, however if I have to resort to using the pocket trimmers so be it. Just have to make sure i've got a huge stash of batteries! lol

clipping him is always such a trauma that the finish is often a bit embarrassing, I really hope with the help of Domosedan I can be proud of his clip ;)
 
Another person that has successfully used Domosedan - The time I tried it, I think the vet said wait 40 mins before starting, I found that it took longer than this to take effect and it helps if your horse is relaxed to start with. I whizzed frantically round doing a full clip and was amazed that he was sedated for ages afterwards so I could have taken my time and done a better job!!

I haven't used it since as my boy is now only in light work and my youngster is a doddle to clip - deep joy!!!!
 
Luckily I don't give him a full clip - sort of blanket come trace, so all neck creating a sort of blanket from his withers down to his stifle point. He gets these amazing whirls of coat on each cheek every winter, so hoping that I can give him a half face too ;)

Best laid plans.....!
 
I used it last year on a horse that has never been able to be clipped using anything other than full IV sedation.
The domosedan gel was very very effective, I managed to get a full clip done using it.
The only thing I would say it be extra vigilant when using it, the horse I clipped was still quite aware of what was going on and was a little twitchy with back legs, so I'd just say keep your guard up and position yourself safely when using it.
 
Thanks 'ihatework'

Fingers crossed my chap will be the same, twitchy I can cope with and would make it a breeze! previous years have been all of my 10 st against his 600kg, trying to pin him up against a wall in his stable while he tries to 'bolt' away, stamp, shake, tense up...oh you name it. Professionals have refused to clip him without full sedation (before I took him on), and friends have offered to help, but because he was quite dangerous I often refused their help so I could minimise any potential damage.

Honestly he's a sweet heart most of the rest of the time ;) lol
 
We successfully use the blue gel (Domosedan) to shoe one of our mares, she pulls herself out of Sedalin its rubbish. Make sure it goes under the tongue otherwise it wont work.
 
I use it for the pony who hates the dentist, he was competely out of it for at least 2 hours (willy out, dribbling wee, head on floor etc.) I suspect I gave him a little too much!! Easy to give (pony hates vet) and costs a fraction of vet visit for IV sedation.
My dentist highly recommends it
 
I don't think I'll have too much issue getting it under his tongue, but like the idea of rubbing it into gums, with gloves on of course!
 
It's brilliant stuff. My vets were very insistant about weasing gloves to give it though, it seems you really don't want to get it on your skin. I also find I'm not left with a horse that's out of it for 6 or 7 hours, in his case a couple of hours & he's back to normal.
 
Brill stuff. I used it to shoe one of my horses as Sedalin doesnt touch her. She is pretty much as sleepy as when given IV by the vet. And sometimes i dont manage to get it under her tonge and it has worked just as well :)
 
I've used it to clip coblets legs a couple of times. I find it works fab however he is a pain to get a syringe into his mouth and last time it didn't work properly because it didn't fully go under his toungue.
My vet says be very careful and never use it on your own, she thinks because its only 1 drug used instead of the normal 2 in an injection they are still aware of things and a back keg can come flying at you in seconds with no warning, even if the horse isn't known to kick, even coblet had a flick of the leg a few times.

Would still use it again though :)
 
Haven't used it for clipping. I've preferred to train the horse for that - never taken more than 4 two to three hour sessions to gradually increase the horse's confidence accepting the clippers.

However, I'm going to be using it for dental work to see if it works as well as the injection. My dentist says he's now used it on about 400 horses, and only 4 have been impossible to do, so that's a pretty good success rate.

One vet said to me that his experience is it works well on front end work (like dental work), but said to be cautious if it was being used for anything around the back legs, as he'd found that some horses still seemed to be more aware/defensive of work taking place around their back end. That seems to fit with what a couple of others have said on this thread.

Sarah
 
So, used Domosedan this weekend for clipping. My chap is a 16 yo 16.2 TB - just for reference. He's fine about stuff in the mouth so administering wasn't too much of an issue. Stuck my finger into the corner of his mouth first to check about the angle to make sure it went under his tongue, so aimed in, back and down then just squeezed the whole syringe in one go, that wasn't a problem.

check on him after 20 mins, then 40 mins when I could see it starting to take effect, and I started clipping at about 45 mins. Whilst I was waiting for it to take effect I made sure that there was nothing going on in the yard that would get him excited at all, so he would be totally chilled and not be fighting against the sedative.

Now, my chap's problem is that he's super sensitive skin, ie very ticklish and hates anything thing that vibrates or irritates his skin. I have a set of Norton horse clippers and was hoping that the domosedan would de-sensitise his skin enough that I could use those, but nope, even though he was groggy he was still getting very agitated. So I resorted to a set of trimming clippers which aren't half as mechanical as the Nortons and therefore don't give off so much vibration. They take much much longer to use, but the whole process is far safer.

I would say that it probably took an hour for the Domosedan to really be at its full power, and then I managed to get his neck, down to his stifle and half his face done in that time. I give him an Irish clip.

One hour up and he was waking up again - so I spent that time tidying his head and neck. That left me with his belly and his armpits to do. I really didn't fancy giving him another dose the next day as I wasn't sure even with it I could get near the areas left, so I asked my YO to give me a hand with a neck twitch, which worked wonders, 10 - 15 mins and he was, more or less all done.

Next year - well, I'm not sure about the Domosedan, i'm thinking that I invest in some really good low vibration clippers, if I sedate I think I might get the vet out, which whilst more expensive might be more effective (that's a conversation I have to have with the vet). I have to say that the neck twitch worked really well, he even responded to a light ear twitch, that is simply holding his ear, very lightly, back towards his neck.

Anyway he's done now and its over for another year. Oh, one think I forgot - he wee'd an awful lot whilst under the sedation - 3 times in fact! I took him out for a nice hack yesterday to lighten his mood and he loved me again!
 
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