Donnersohn...two of them???

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So, my mare is going to be put to this stallion, conf. temperament, size and bloodlines all suit perfectly so I am really quite excited...

http://www.morgan-equine.com/acatalog/copy_of_copy_of_Stallions_DONNERSOHN.html

Then, a friend of mine when discussing this, said that there was a video of him on YouTube. I went to have a look and found this...

http://www.helencastdressage.com/id29.html

different horses by the same stallion, given the same name?

What am I missing here?

Chocolate and fudge cupcakes for anyone who can shed light. I love the sire I have chosen for Fly, but am confused by there being a same named stallion in the US, also by Donnerhall?

 

[Spring Feather]

The Donnersohn over here in the US has a different dam. Sohn just means son. Many WBs have the same names, they are usually followed by either the breeders farm letters or roman numerals. Rarely are these extra letters used when promoting the horse in any adverts/websites.

 

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The Donnersohn over here in the US has a different dam. Sohn just means son. Many WBs have the same names, they are usually followed by either the breeders farm letters or roman numerals. Rarely are these extra letters used when promoting the horse in any adverts/websites.

Thank you...this is why I say we never stop learning...over 30 years with horses and so much I still don't know

 

[rachyblue]

The ones with roman numerals are usually full brothers. But these two could belong to different stud books and could therefore have the same name with no issue.

 

[Spring Feather]

The ones with roman numerals are usually full brothers. But these two could belong to different stud books and could therefore have the same name with no issue.

No that isn't the case sorry. The roman numerals are used when anyone wants to register their horse with a name which has already been taken hence they must register the horse with a unique name and that's where the farm initials or roman numerals come in. There are often multiple horses within the same WB registry who have the same name and the registry will automatically give the horse name suffix numerals. I have bred quite a few horses who were given suffix numerals, and with some I've registered them with my farm initials as a suffix or prefix Ie. one of my mares is NAME XII and even though there are many Holsteiners with the same name as her she is not related in any way to any other registered Holsteiner except that she shares the same name as them. Hope that helps; a lot of people get a bit confused with some of the WB registries and how they work.

 

[HBM1]

It is also the case though that full siblings do use roman numerals..eg Capitol I, Capitol II,Capitol III and Cassini I through III etc.

 

[Spring Feather]

It is also the case though that full siblings do use roman numerals..eg Capitol I, Capitol II,Capitol III and Cassini I through III etc.

True for a small handful. For the most part though, it's just naming conventions. When every foal born into say the Holsteiner registry in a particular year their names start with a certain letter and with so many foals being named with that letter there will always be duplicates hence the roman numerals are added automatically as a suffix. In the example of the OP, the two Donnersohn's, although both are registered with the same WB registry they are not full siblings and one (or maybe both) will have either suffix numerals or farm initials.

 

[rachyblue]

In the Hanoverian stud book the only ones who can have the same name are full brothers. But equally there can be German Hanoverian and a British one with the name name as they are technically different stud books.
Things like BS reg and other non breed specifics then yes there will be unrelated horses with the same name as there aren't the same restrictions.

 

[Spring Feather]

I have a Hanoverian mare who I registered with a name shared by 4 other Hanoverian mares. I registered her with my farm suffix. She is not related in any way to any of the other registered Hanoverian mares.

I've been a member of the German Holsteiner Verband, American Hanoverian (which works reciprocally with the German Hannoveraner Verband) and the German Oldenburg Verband for years so am familiar with their naming conventions. In these registries any duplicate names have to be followed or preceded with a suffix or roman numerals