Draw Reins/Side Reins IN A STABLE???

[ElliePippa]

Im shocked. Went to see a friend recently at her stables, and was telling me about a new livery there. That livery soon arrved and she told me how she puts draw reins or side reins on her horse, which is attached to a lunge roller, in the stable and overnight!!!
She boasted at how much better her horse went when she rode it due to this, but i was shocked, how would the horse eat, etc!

I was thinking of ringing WHW, but i didnt

I think this is awful, the livery obv doesnt know anything...
Sorry this has really upset me and i just had to get it off my chest.

What does everyone else think??

x

 

[deecee]

OMG!!!!!

 

[nikicb]

I've heard that some people do that with show ponies, but never actually seen it. It's horrible if they do.

 

[wildpoppywild]

why do they do it? sounds so mean

 

[Mosh]

Someone on my old yard used to do that to his stallion and one of the horses he rides.
Both horses were seriously unhappy, eventually after a talking too by someone on the yard he stopped it but very soon after he moved so I don't know if he carried on or not, instinct tells me he did.
Poor ponies could hardly move and if they did lie down, wouldn't take much for them to get caught

 

[nikicb]

I'm guessing so that the ponies are so fixed in an outline they stay like that in the show ring even with little kids on top.

 

[emmaln]

That is ridiculous not only is it totally unbeneficial and will have no effect whatsoever on the horses way of going or their outline/topline but it is cruel and dangerous!!! I bet you were fuming!!!!

 

[rara007]

Tell her to come see our Bob is she want to see the long term effect of what it does.

 

[ElliePippa]

I was...And shocked! Thinking of it now, i should have gone mental, but, me being me i just kept quiet and kept to my own buisiness :/

 

[Lucy_Nottingham]

its done by some people to make the horse basically develop muscles in an "outline" so that it is the most comfortable place for the horse to have its neck most of the time, so when its worked...... its head and neck go into this outline! but it does NOT mean that the horse is working properly, just that it holds its head round in the position is is used to.....

it is really quite a foul thing to do to a horse, as others have said, eating and dirnking? if you watch most horses drink they stretch their necks out to straighten their oesophagus etc, with side reins on etc they cant, so I doubt this horse is drinking or eating properly etc

Poor thing

 

[welshied]

That is awful how the hell the horse goes down and gets up i don't know

 

[soph21]

Totally effing speechless

 

[deecee]

Can you not say something to the YO as the horse is on her yard Is she not overall responsible????

 

[ElliePippa]

I think i might next time i see her, probs in a month or so, its ages away i know, but she no longer lives near me...
I think ill text my friend to tell her, prob is, she knows the lady, so....

 

[LauraWheeler]

Working in an outline comes from behind. You can't pin a horses head down to make it work properly when ridden let alone when just stood in the stable. What on earth is she thinking. Her poor horse. It's storys like this that make me think horse owner licensing is a good idea!! Why doesn't she just have some lessons with a dressage trainer or get someone who can actuly ride or better still sell the poor horse and give up!

 

[Scribbles]

I agree, overnight etc is terrible, but...


... When little ned got into head tossing habit, then I would put (long, elastic) side reins on. They are the type which go up over the head rather than attaching to the bit, so that he has freedome to move his head as much as needed. I'd put these on, and leave him for an hour - hour 1/2 in the stable for him to stop fighting it. I would check him often, and obviously had had the dentist out and new NS bit etc. It only took 2 sessions of this, kind of similar to training a horse to take a saddle, this was just to teach him that sudden shakes of the head won't prevent a contact from being taken up; which he had been taught at the place we bought him from.

He doesn't do it anymore, and has a very soft sensitive mouth now that he has relaxed.

But I don't think that that is what your lady is doing.

 

[Dobby]

What a total f***ing idiot. Can you really not say something or get your friend to say something asap?

 

[saddlesore]

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Tell her to come see our Bob is she want to see the long term effect of what it does.

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And mine, he was subjected to this when he was broken. He is now scared of things being clipped onto bridle/headcollar

 

[Biscuit]

Does not sound nice at all. It amazes me that people would even come up with the idea. Hopefully the YO can sort it out - surely it would be a welfare issue :-(

 

[skewbaldpony]

not nice. seen it done though, when I was working. on some rather smart dressage yards, I have to say - though not overnight, more for a couple of hours.
mind you, I've seen a lot of surprising things done in my time.

 

[kerilli]

i would ring yard owner and let them know, that is absolutely disgusting. poor horses muscles will be screaming with pain.
or, we can just hope that the poor thing goes crackers when idiot owner removes draw reins, and hopefully wipes her out. (although that'll give the poor horse a bad name and it'd prob get a bullet through no fault of its own.)
some people's ignorance actually rends me speechless.

 

[Doris68]

Good God - what on earth are they thinking of? Or maybe they don't do "THINKING". Sad and ignorant people!

 

[MrsMozart]

It's against the Animal Welfare Act and should be reported.

 

[f_s_]

This should be reported, it is a cruel and unnecessary practice, which has absolutely no benefit, and causes pain and discomfort to the horse.

 

[Foxford]

I know a breaking yard that does it. So when people come and see how their horse is coming on it looks like it's working in an outline... Sickening.

 

[somethingorother]

What a bleeding idiot. They need sorting out. Do they even know the first thing about horses??? They clearly know a lot about how to completely ruin one!

I'm sure this should be reported, i would not even do it for an hour or two, let alone over night which is ridiculous. There is always a reason for behaviour, including head shaking who ever that was, but there is absolutely no excuse for putting a horse through that over night. Worries me these people have psychopayhic tendencies as they obviously have no sense of empathy for the poor animals.

 

[lauraandjack]

Quite commonly done to show ponies I believe. Is used to teach them to stand in an outline.

One of the many aspects of showing that I dislike.

 

[moandben]

[ QUOTE ]
Im shocked. Went to see a friend recently at her stables, and was telling me about a new livery there. That livery soon arrved and she told me how she puts draw reins or side reins on her horse, which is attached to a lunge roller, in the stable and overnight!!!
She boasted at how much better her horse went when she rode it due to this, but i was shocked, how would the horse eat, etc!

I was thinking of ringing WHW, but i didnt

i think this is awful, the livery obv doesnt know anything...
Sorry this has really upset me and i just had to get it off my chest.

What does everyone else think??

x

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If you would kindly pm me the details of horse/owner/yard please

 

[SirenaXVI]

[ QUOTE ]
Quite commonly done to show ponies I believe. Is used to teach them to stand in an outline.

One of the many aspects of showing that I dislike.

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Echo that, have heard of people doing it with show ponies, no wonder they all appear to go in false outlines. Extremely cruel practice imho.

 

[AmyMay]

I'd ring the YO or manager - and tell them.

That's appalling behaviour and needs to be stopped immediately.

Oh, and I'd happily be going in the stable and taking them off too, I'm afraid.