Dressage Judges - a question

[Llwyncwn]

At a comp last week, at halt, salute, a gelding pee'd for around 25 seconds (instead of the usual 5 seconds halt). Would you have penalised (no pun intended) ?

This may sound a bit picky, but judges seem to be these days.

 

[Skhosu]

sorry..not a judge but pmsl at that!!

 

[carthorse]

PMSL

 

[Santa_Claus]

personally if i was judging no. It isn't a disobedience as such its just the call of nature!! I would probably be giggling fiercly in the car but I wouldn't personally penalise. BUT i don't judge and of the hundreds of tests I have scribed for the situation has never arisen!!

 

[carthorse]

Do you know if it is done in dog obedience ,they would be eliminated.It's ok I've just stopped laughing, only you could post this

 

[Santa_Claus]

but dogs are different to Horses. Dogs pee to scent an area and exert dominance whereas with a horse its simply to relieve themselves!

 

[Partoow]

I would laugh and blush for the person!!

I certainly would'nt have an issue with it, its the call of nature and really a horse has no option , droppings are different. At the YR CDI a horse stopped in the canter half pass to do droppings now that is naughty!

 

[Bossanova]

So long as he remained on the bit and attentative throughout I wouldnt penalise it

 

[annewragg]

This is a slightly unrelated question but over the years I have noticed how the best dressage scores seem to come late in the class. Recently I have actually analised the figures at a couple of events and in all cases 7 or 8 of the top 10 places are in the second half of the class. I am not talking about top level where riders have 2 horses so the best are late in the class, but RC, PC Intro and Pre N.
Would be interested to hear what others think.

 

[Sparklet]

having organised competitions I may be able to answer this one. The prelim class is usually followed by the novice class - so anyone doing both classes would be given a late time in the prelim and an early time in the nov so they didnt have a huge gap between tests. Anyone just doing prelim got the early slots and anyone just doing nov got the late slots along with those doing nov and elem classes.

Although not always the case it tends to put the more experienced riders/horses on later in the classes which is probably what you are noticing.

 

[annewragg]

Thanks for that, but I am really talking about horse trials were that tends not to apply as the horses only do one class.

 

[MagicMelon]

Surely if she'd done the salute before he peed then she'd technically have finished the test?

 

[MagicMelon]

With regard to the dressage scores being better in the last half at horse trials. Personally I find a lot of the 'in the know' (ie. long term) eventers request late times so they dont have such early starts in the morning etc. Maybe this has something to do with it? I know they say you cant really ask for late times without a decent reason but I have done in the past and always got them!

 

[henryhorn]

When my dog did that every time he passed a particular spot (never even broke stride!) in an obedience comp I got 2 marks deducted..
I don't actually think anything should be knocked off in dressage, after all, it's beyond the rider's control.. (and poor horse must have been desperate)

 

[LEC]

I always ask for late dressage times and usually get them. My dressage is rubbish so do not think I somehow count in this!