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My mare had a foal by Legrande, a Buckskin stallion, this year and I am very pleased with him. He was awarded an elite at the futurity, has great movement and is very friendly.
 

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have a look at Lochmore Oscar or Burnock Exclusively Done are advertised as dun if this is what you specifically want ( you may need to check that they are not actually buckskin though)
 

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I think all the stallions suggested are in fact Buckskin - meaning they carry 1 dilute gene and giving you a 50% chance of a dilute foal. If you want a true Dun you should look at Highlands or Quarter Horses. What are you looking to breed?
 

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If the mare is Bay if you can find a quality Perlino stallion you like it will increase your chances of a Buckskin (if the stallion is AA, EE it will pretty much guarantee it).
 

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What sort of horse are you looking to breed? What is your mare like?
I put my Bay mare to a Dun Welsh Part Bred, Classic Dunbydesign. My foal turned out dun. The stallion is very nice and my little one turned 4 this year and has the most wonderful nature and attitude (which he must have inherited from the sire as his mother was a cow!)
 

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Am I right I saying a cremello has the same results if put to a bay?
I have a warmblood mare (Voltaire and lux z lines) and want something for myself to bring on as an all rounder .
My mare is a big girl at 17.1hh and would ideally like something smaller around 16-16.2hh
And I have always loved Duns/ buckskins.
I have had one foal from my mare but I have a feeling he is going to be huge as he already stands at 15.2hh at 16 months old. Not that he will be going anywhere.
 

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If you are looking at breeding an allrounder with your mares jumping bloodlines a dressage stallion like trevelier decanter might cross well. same percentage chance of palomino/buckskin I believe as legrande. http://www.treliverstud.co.uk/treliver decanter.htm

McJonnas at solaris stud is homozygous cremello, so will definately throw a dilute gene, resulting in either buckskin, palomino or smokey black, and he has some stunning looking stock on the ground. http://www.solaris-sport-horses.co.uk/cremello_warmblood_stallion.shtml
example of his progeny: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solar...8844701747.176494.172503396747&type=1&theater

oh and a handy coat colour calculator is here: http://www.horsetesting.com/CCalculator1.asp
 

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And then there is the perlino stallion Dunhill Desert Storm, born 2008, standing at Brackenspa Stud.
S: Dundee, D: Premium Madeira GF
The stallion is still in full development, but shows very good movement and comes at a good size.
He was graded into stallion book 1 "German Horse" of ZfdP at the end of August.
 

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All these Stallions (and offspring are lovely) :D

I take it dun or buckskin is the new colour to have these days??? I see so many people looking to increase the chances of hacing a foal of this colour :)
 

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I don't think that Duns are a new fad to be honest.
I once had a lovely 15.2hh dun mare that I had outgrown and when I put her up for sale I had so many enquiries from people many wanting to buy unseen purely because she was a dun and this was over 15 years ago.
Obviously I didn't sell her unseen but I was amazed by the amount of interest she got and I know other people that have said the same.
I do think a dun / buckskin can look stunning.
I have a field of bay horses which are my favourite by far lol.
 

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I think you probably mean Legrande, a buckskin? who I met at the stallion showcase at Addington earlier this year.
He is even nicer in the flesh and trust me, has the most amazing movement ever plus a super jump.
I wandered round to the stables and he was happily meeting his public, friendly as well as beautiful.
I think his owners have Lynnair Stud based in Shropshire, and they offer AI. as well as mares going to him.
Very pleasant people to deal with, in fact I plan on sending a mare to him myself before too long. Google the name Legrande and I'm sure the contact details will pop up.
 

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Not seen Legrande in he flesh but from what i have see on pictures etc he screams quality. I have ummed and ahhed about using him and i believe as said above his owner is very helpful
 

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Have seen Legrande in the flesh & I missed out on the auction held at Addington for the stallion show (big big thumbs up for that) & a thumbs up for the stallion & his connections. If I had a crystal ball both mares would be in-foal now as Mo would be have gone to Legrande.
 

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Yet another vote for the fabulous Legrande. In fact, if Legrande were an ordinary bay, I would say forget about colour and use him anyway: in his case, the gorgeous colour is just the icing on the cake.
 

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It depends if you want a buckskin or a dun. If you have your mare DNA tested for colour, which would cost approx. £35, then you can tell what stallion to put her to for the colour you want. Most stud owners will have had their stallions tested and can advise on the likely outcome. If she tests EE AA, then she will definately throw a buckskin if put to a Perlino or a Cremello and stands a 50% chance if put to a Buckskin. Buckskin is caused by the Cream dilution gene. Perlinos and Cremellos have two copies of it, which means they always pass it on, and buckskins have one copy of it, which means that there is a 50% chance of them passing it on.
Dun is a totally different gene and more unusual. I only know of one stallion in this country that has two copies of the dun gene, so will definitely produce duns and he is a PRE (Andalusian). Although some Highlands might and I think I have heard of a Dun QH stallion.
 

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As I own Legrande, I could be considered a little biased towards him :D For fear of being banned 'again' by our resident button pushers :rolleyes: I will not post the long list of Legrande's or his foals success, but you are very welcome to PM me if you would like any information, or if you would like to arrange a visit and meet him in person.

One thing I would like to say to all mare owners who are looking to breed colour. Please do not sacrifice colour for quality, colour is the icing on the cake, not the whole cake, conformation, temperament, movement, ability etc., should be the boxes that are ticked first and foremost. As the old saying goes "a good horse is never a bad colour".
 
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