Dung heap removal

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Advice would be appreciated. Am moving from a rented field to a livery yard. Field owners have insisted that the dung pile is taken with me?! Wouldn't be so bad but previous to myself renting the field there were 3 horses in there so i put my dung on the pile that was already there.
Have advertised for free but no luck. Farmers charge between £200-£300 for removal. Has anyone else eperianced this request before?
 

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I used to bag my well-rotted stuff up and sell for 50p a bag. Anybody who wanted could come and help themselves to as much as they liked if they bagged up their own. It did help that I lived near a largish commuter town.

I am not sure how much time you have to dispose of this, but how about bagging up and if you have access to a trailer taking to a car boot sale? Trust me, gardeners love the stuff and I did know of somebody who did this regularly.

Another friend of mine used to advertise hers in the free papers.

Anyway, there are people that would love to get their hands on it and I just hope your field is within the vicinity of allotments/houses!
 

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I'd have it like a shot but you don't post your location which I suspect is hundreds of miles away! I'm in the Scottish Highlands.:cool:
 

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Thanks for the replies. Have advertised it but not had any interest. The location of the field makes bagging up and leaving it difficult as it is down a private lane with very little traffic going past.

I have never been asked to get rid of poo before, and feel a little intimidated by field owner by her demands. I have treated the field like my own and have taken great care to look after it. But feel very miffed as i took on the field with a big muck heap from the previous tenants.
 

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I suppose you can see her point though, she'll be well out of pocket if she has to pay to have it removed and though it might not have been entirely all yours, there's only you now.

I did a spell of bagging muck and delivering it to some allotments and the people there were very glad of it. Once I got used to who wanted it, I emptied the bags in a central location and by the following week it was all gone and ready for a new batch.

It's hard work but maybe if you can enlist the help of a couple of friends and just get it done, at least you won't leave the old place under a cloud.
 

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Ehm, I'm a YO (DIY) and have never asked this of any of my liveries!!!

Can see where YO may be coming from. (Dare I ask this), do you have a contract in place? If so, is there any stipulation that if you leave you have to "sort" the muckheap? Tho' having said that I hadn't given it any thought and its not in the one I use!!! TBH I would consider it a YO responsibility and certainly never something I've expected of anyone before they left.

Just some ideas, if you'd like to resolve it before you leave ........ you say you've advertised BUT it just might be that you need to target gardeners specifically (not saying you haven't). Is there any gardening clubs/allotments in your area? You could stick an advert up near any allotments or maybe where you see some houses with "nice"(!!!) gardens or whatever.

There's a farmer I know who'll take away horse manure and spread it on his land in return for a bottle of something good! But appreciate that helpful farmers might not exist in every locality.

Maybe there's a Garden Centre in your area who'd appreciate it for free? (they'd probably then flog it to the general public for a song, but then you wouldn't care would you??).

Good luck anyway.
 

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Advice would be appreciated. Am moving from a rented field to a livery yard. Field owners have insisted that the dung pile is taken with me?! Wouldn't be so bad but previous to myself renting the field there were 3 horses in there so i put my dung on the pile that was already there.
Have advertised for free but no luck. Farmers charge between £200-£300 for removal. Has anyone else eperianced this request before?

No and I wouldn't do it, especially if there was already one there when I arrived.
 

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No contract in place. Have contacted the local village allotment - no joy, they say its a little late in the season for it.
Sadly i don't drive so am a little stuck for delivering bags of poo ect.
I know of one person but he only wants 2 bags, and it seems the poo market is a little flooded here,so many people are advertising free poo but can't seem to shift it. All the local farmers are working flat out with silage so not interested in picking it up.

I have never in 15 years of renting fields ever been asked to remove a muck heap.

New YO takes full responsibility for muck removal, which has always been the case in places that i have rented.
 

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I get charged £50 per load to remove mine, farmer rocks up with huge trailer - loads it in and takes it to spread on his land - for 2 horses I have it removed twice a year.

I have never heard of anyone having to remove it - if you have to you could offer to make a donation of £50 towards the removal - give the money to YO and when farmers are quieter she can get it removed.
 

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I get charged £50 per load to remove mine, farmer rocks up with huge trailer - loads it in and takes it to spread on his land - for 2 horses I have it removed twice a year.

I have never heard of anyone having to remove it - if you have to you could offer to make a donation of £50 towards the removal - give the money to YO and when farmers are quieter she can get it removed.

This. Since there is no contract and is isnt standard to suddenly ask someone to remove it at the end of a livery contract (tho it may be charged for within the livery charge while you are there), this would be more than reasonable. Any more than that and you are paying to remove the previous liveries muck which clearly they weren't made to, and I would tell her where to go.

In fact I would make the £50 contingent on her accepting it with good grace in writing, otherwise the offer is withdrawn.

It isnt unfair to get liveries to contribute to muck removal per se, but it is to do so to one person alone, at the point of them leaving and to expect them to pay for the muck of others horses as well as their own.
 

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In fact I would make the £50 contingent on her accepting it with good grace in writing, otherwise the offer is withdrawn.

It isnt unfair to get liveries to contribute to muck removal per se, but it is to do so to one person alone, at the point of them leaving and to expect them to pay for the muck of others horses as well as their own.

Think OP would be acting more than reasonably if she did this. Personally I've not heard of it happening anywhere else.
 

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Thanks for your replies - got a rather rude text from her. Ignored it and not heard from her since. Just think she thought i was a push over and would bow to her demands.
In a much nicer yard now, so very relieved.
 

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This. Since there is no contract and is isnt standard to suddenly ask someone to remove it at the end of a livery contract (tho it may be charged for within the livery charge while you are there), this would be more than reasonable. Any more than that and you are paying to remove the previous liveries muck which clearly they weren't made to, and I would tell her where to go.

In fact I would make the £50 contingent on her accepting it with good grace in writing, otherwise the offer is withdrawn.

It isnt unfair to get liveries to contribute to muck removal per se, but it is to do so to one person alone, at the point of them leaving and to expect them to pay for the muck of others horses as well as their own.

If it was a normal agricultural tenancy, the manure (note!) would be left as a valuable by-product and the tenant would be in deep poo if he removed it! So I tend to agree with the above.
 

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The last yard I rented asked me to get rid of muck pile and they would go halves, but they never coughed up the.money so I left it as was about £200.
New yard -rent seperate bit from farm. They have supplied big trailer and charge £25 to remove this as has bedding in too (but have said to really fill it up and pack it down!), but will do muck pile from field for free if I keep seperate.
 

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Absolutely not, it's a joke, if she didn't stipulate it when you moved in AND it was already there, she's just taking the mickey. I would not bother. Essentially you are obliged to leave the field as you found it, in this case... With a muck heap. I would not pay to remove other people's horses poo!
 
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