Dust allergies/nosebleeds?

[caramel]

Hi!
My boy has had nosebleeds a bit this year, had vet who's not overly worried. Had another one tonight which went on for ages! all ok now thank goodness.

However... having thought about it long and hard....I have a theory!

He only gets them when stabled, have moved stables which is when the issue started. He's on bed-down and rubber matting, has soaked hay and wet feeds.

Problem started when our next door neighbour moved in. Then the nosebleeds started. He's fine in the field/out on hacks etc.
She's on straw, which is rather dusty. before we moved stables he was fine as the two horses either side are on shavings/bedsoft.

The only thing that has changed is that she's on straw. My boys a sensitive old soul.

My theory is that the dust off the straw is the cause of his nosebleeds, as before she moved in he was fine.

Does this sound reasonable? What can I do to help him? Will speak to YO tomorrow.

 

[Bess]

Are the nosebleeds from both nostrils or just one?

 

[caramel]

just the one.

He's on rubber matting and turned out during the day.

 

[TicTac]

Could be. However if nosebleeds persist, get your vet to scope him. I had a horse that had two different types of guttural pouch infections on seperate occasions. Guttural pouch empyema and then guttural pouch mycosis. Both nasty and difficult infections to treat and both started with nosebleeds.

 

[caramel]

the vet spoke a lot about allergies/hayfever type symptoms. There's no other signs (coughing etc) and that's the only thing that has changed. Vet wants to get him scoped so will ring them on monday, I'm not overly worried at the mo. I know they're not exercise induced and the issues began when the horse next door arrived and she went onto straw. He's fine in every other way (full of the joys!) rather too full of himself now!

 

[Bess]

My horse had a nosebleed from one nostril for six weeks at the end of last year. It was a steady trickle of fresh blood that just kept on going. My vets were very worried because it was fresh blood (maybe yours is not). After it had continued for two weeks they endoscoped him in the stable to try to see where the blood was coming from. It was clear that it was not from the trachea so not the lungs (not surprising because then it would have come down both nostrils) so he was referred to the vet hospital sharpish.

They were worried that it was something called gutteral pouch mycosis - where a fungus latches on to the artery running through the gutteral pouch - very serious. The endoscopy at the vet hospital showed that it wasn't that. So he was kept in and the next day they did a sinoscopy where they opened up a flap of skin above his eye and drilled into the skull to put a camera into the sinus area on the right side of his head. That didn't show up the area of bleeding but they said that the sinus area is a labyrinth and they couldn't get around all of it. It stopped of its own accord eventually but it was a worrying time.

If it is continual fresh bleeding I would get another opinion if it were my horse or phone your nearest vet hospital and get it checked out thoroughly.

 

[caramel]

they generally stop after half an hour, he's suffered with EIPH in the past, this was the reason why he retired from racing.
Could it be a weakness caused by years of EIPH which is now being aggravated by the dust from the straw?

 

[Bess]

If it is EIPH then its strange that the nosebleed is only down one nostril. Bleeding from the lungs would normally, I would guess, be down both nostrils.

The fact that my horse's nosebleed was only from one nostril rang alarm bells to my vets.

 

[caramel]

these nosebleeds started by him standing in his stable, nothing more. He has been known to come in with a minor one by running around in the field. I am very aware of his history of EIPH but has had no episodes since I've had him.

Vet said it was a relatively minor nosebleed,despite it going on for what seemed like ages! She didn't do anything, said everything else was fine.

 

[Bess]

My horse's nosebleed just started from nothing, I would get your horse checked out again, my vet was very attentive when they realised it could be be serious.

 

[caramel]

he's booked in for scoping. So we shall wait and see.

As he's bad them a lot before when racing, will try and contact his former trainers to see what they did with him.

 

[mtj]

Firstly, my understanding is that nosebleeds at rest should be scoped to eliminate causes such as guttural pouch infections. As previously mentioned, these have to be taken seriously, and if ignored can result in a fatal hemorrage (sp).

My gelding has occasional slight (ie teaspoon) trickles of blood from one nostril. He has been scoped and the conclusion was sensitivity on his part. Vet recommended a respiratory supplement. Might be incidental, but my horse is also a headshaker.

 

[caramel]

yeah, will see what the scoping shows. From what I understand he started having bleeds when he was a 9 year old (he's 15 now), and he's been scratching his nose a lot recently/sneezing occasional coughing. He's also a headshaker when out which is leading me to think it's dust/pollen.
It's always the same side, and never amount to anything, just a slight trickle.

 

[rebeccas93]

yeah, will see what the scoping shows. From what I understand he started having bleeds when he was a 9 year old (he's 15 now), and he's been scratching his nose a lot recently/sneezing occasional coughing. He's also a headshaker when out which is leading me to think it's dust/pollen.
It's always the same side, and never amount to anything, just a slight trickle.

Hi,
I’m know this thread is 10 years old.. but my horse is currently experiencing what your horse did and I just wondered what the outcome with it was? (Vet is involved)
Thanks