Edinburgh restaurant put horsemeat on the menu

I suppose it was only a matter of time and the owner is French so completely normal for him. If you take the emotion out of it its just another source of protein and why shouldn't horses be eaten. Its not for me though and I'd draw the line at dogs :(
 
Got his restaurant some publicity which I think was the sole intention here.... I'd be genuinely interested in how much of it he actually takes orders for.....

What's wrong with good local Scottish produce anyway?
 
Hmm, I don't know how popular frogs legs and snails are either tbh, think most people order it for the novelty.

I am a veggie anyway, so don't eat any meat (but yes, ok, I'm fine with chicken foetus' ;) ) but the thought of eating horse turns my stomach. They are very much pets in the UK, and for most horse/dog/cat owners - eating any of them would be not something you'd fancy doing I think.

Does the silly french man not know that we're called le rosbif for a reason?! :D
 
Personally I have no problem with the idea of horse being eaten, ditto to the fact that I draw the line at dogs etc but horses are in a sense still livestock. This is provided that they are farmed for meat in a humane environment and not someones once loved first pony!
 
I do not have a problem with horse meat either, provided that the horses had good lives and were responsibly kept, transported and put down. I have probably eaten horse meat several times abroad, not steak or anything but who knows what really went into the salami? I am not sure I would want a horse steak though.
 
I don't have a problem with it either for the same reasons as CJ. However, it is imported and I would have no idea if the horse on the plate was treated inhumanely or not.

I prefer to know that my produce is sourced locally and slaughtered 5 miles down the road.
 
Why not Dog ???? lots of far eastern countrys have it on the menu and some far flung pacific islands have canibals maybe thats the answer to overpopulation !!!!!!
 
I am a bit surprised to learn the country of origin is France though.
Here ,in SW France, we see horsemeat from all round the world on the supermarket shelves, no kidding, never seen French in my area.
And no, I wouldnt knowingly order any.
JC
 
You can't just eat ugly animals.

Again, provided the welfare is acceptable, I will eat anything, within reason.

Dunno about chavs, I find some of them a bit hard to swallow...
 
CaveCanem said:
You can't just eat ugly animals.

Again, provided the welfare is acceptable, I will eat anything, within reason.

Dunno about chavs, I find some of them a bit hard to swallow...
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What she said.

Why shouldn't people be allowed to serve/eat horses?
 
JCWHITE said:
I am a bit surprised to learn the country of origin is France though.
Here ,in SW France, we see horsemeat from all round the world on the supermarket shelves, no kidding, never seen French in my area.
And no, I wouldnt knowingly order any.
JC
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You are correct. My local supermarkets and butcher sell Mexican and Canadian horsemeat - but only in the tiniest amounts i.e. 2/3 pkts on the whole meat counter.

Hilarious when you think about it. The EU introduced horse passports to protect the digestive systems of those who eat horse...and where does their horse meat come from? Countries with no passports, where a horse could have any drug in its system.
 
I would probably struggle to eat it, but largely due to drugs/passport issues. I wouldn't eat dog, but more due to issues with eating carnivores than sentiment. One culture's food animal is another's pet (or sacred cow!)

Snails are definitely considered a delicacy in France - never tried frog's legs...
 
Well no, sorry I don't like it. Call it sentiment or what you like but I am not going to pretend I don't have an issue with it. Neither would I call cows, pigs or sheep 'ugly animals'. i think I just have an issue with why us (humans that is) feel the need to eat anything and everything just because we can. Would people have issue if they served human meat? I mean, say if humans agreed that in the event of their death they would give consent to be eaten - would you eat it?

I imagine not.

Sheep and cattle etc are stolen regularly in this country - I wouldn't like to think this could become more common for horses as well if horse meat was at a premium and was being eaten in this country.

Maybe it's just me - I liken horses to dogs and cats and I wouldn't eat them - I know some countries do and I have seen how the dogs are 'farmed' and killed - it's not pleasant. Still no doubt being that I am vegetarian maybe I just hold a different view and no doubt the well loved 'bunny hugger' phrase will get chucked in my direction soon (sigh). Wont change my opinion on this though. Got the restauranteur some advertising though didn't it.
 
Rollin said:
You are correct. My local supermarkets and butcher sell Mexican and Canadian horsemeat - but only in the tiniest amounts i.e. 2/3 pkts on the whole meat counter.

Hilarious when you think about it. The EU introduced horse passports to protect the digestive systems of those who eat horse...and where does their horse meat come from? Countries with no passports, where a horse could have any drug in its system.
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hopefully it does..and will cause at least a painfull cancer anyone who eats mexican horsemeat is condoning the most barbaric
slaugter methods,... the whole horse meat buisiness is bad news for our noble friends
thank god we are civalised in Britain and see horses as our faithfull servants who have
been with us during our rise though history

Wherever man has left his footprint on the long ascent
from barbarisim to civilisation, we we will find the hoofprint
of a horse beside it.
 
Pigeons gave their service in times of conflict and I eat them too.

**Sorry, being facetious and I do not doubt the deep debt we owe the horse**

The term 'ugly' was more in parody of meat eaters who see nothing wrong with eating one animal but get all hysterical about eating another. For me personally, I cannot be hypocritical.
I might try a baby, how do they taste with ketchup?

**I know, I know**
 
With cavecanam on this one - not eating horse but being quite happy to eat cows, sheep and pigs is rather hypocritical. Are cows and sheep less worthy of our sentimentality than horses? They are certainly brighter!

I would have no problem eating horse but only if I knew where it came from and that it led a reasonable life. The same applies to beef, lamb and pork and chicken - I only eat british raised and slaughter animals (where the welfare is the highest in the world) and free-range chicken (which is hard to find!)
 
i personally dont like the thought of eating a horse, but then im a veggie which will make my opinion slightly different from any one elses, i can understand the whole happy to eat it if they have had a good life etc but how are you meant to know that with all animals that are eaten as there still be some that dont get kept in as good conditioins, but i dont mind people who do eat meat etc, it doesnt bother me as that is why most animals are farmed nowadays anyway, some people may like the taste etc of horse meat, so long as taz and molly stay in their fields and dont get stolen for food i'm quite alright
 
CaveCanem said:
Pigeons gave their service in times of conflict and I eat them too.

**Sorry, being facetious and I do not doubt the deep debt we owe the horse**

The term 'ugly' was more in parody of meat eaters who see nothing wrong with eating one animal but get all hysterical about eating another. For me personally, I cannot be hypocritical.
I might try a baby, how do they taste with ketchup?

**I know, I know**
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I woudent object to you eating one but you should make sure
its free range!!!! for taste I bellive the headhunters of the south pacific call it long pig
so I would guess like pork... would you have a nice cianti with it!!!
 
it's actually quite near me - i may go - i like horse meat
i have no problem eating any meat if it's raised, travelled and killed humanly... i find it odd that people can distingush between one animal being more worthy (or less ;)) than another to be eaten? to me meat is meat is meat... and yup - i could eat my own horse in a famine - i'd make sure i killed it humanely and respected it enough to eat all that i could rather than throwing away anything left after the steaks. i've also raised my own pigs ( yup named ;) and in my front garden!) and had no trouble taknig them to be butchered and enjoying the meat. i'd rather do that than eat some of the meat that comes from countries with no welfare laws
 
My french friend whose father was a butcher says that horse meat is very much out of fashion over there. It is considered a meat for the poor and is generally tougher and not as nice as beef.

Kind of how we think of mutton.

It is getting harder to find in France as people choose other meats in preference.
 
I am with perfect 11's on this one - if you love horses why on earth would you want to eat them?! I also would argue that as I am yet to see a sheep or cow jumping round Badminton or winning Olympic medals that our relationship with the horse cannot be compared with most animals that are kept as livestock. To me the relationship we have with our dogs and horses is the very reason why we don't eat them and long may that continue!
 
I could never eat horse meat, ever. I am a vegetarian but even if I wasn't (in fact, even when I wasn't) I couldn't touch horsemeat. It's a form of cannibalism to me.

I am actually careful to avoid restaurants who offer horse meat on their menu (not easy in some places in Italy!!).

Part of it is the way horses are treated -- I am assuming 90% of the restaurants serving horse meat will use horses who have been inhumanely transported. The conditions these horses have to travel in and the length of the journeys are beyond description, and if you buy meat from a restaurant how do you know how it has been transported / slaughtered / whatever?? Do you ask the waiter?? How will they know? I could never do it.
 
I am not a veggie but will not eat horsemeat.
Do not agree with it. Cattle and sheep don't care what you say are bred specifically for meat and are not "companion" animals
 
but plenty of horses are bred specifically for meat too.

I don't have an issue with it in theory, some of the practice yes.
 
FrodoBeutlin said:
Part of it is the way horses are treated -- I am assuming 90% of the restaurants serving horse meat will use horses who have been inhumanely transported. The conditions these horses have to travel in and the length of the journeys are beyond description, and if you buy meat from a restaurant how do you know how it has been transported / slaughtered / whatever?? Do you ask the waiter?? How will they know? I could never do it.
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The horses slaughtered in France are done locally, there are abattoirs licensed to slaughter horses in every department, they have far more local abattoirs than the UK does. It's the horses going to Italy from the Eastern bloc that have the terrible journeys.
 
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