Educating on teeth

Jill Crewe

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I just wanted to share my recent story with you for educational purposes - I'll try and keep it short as have a tendency to waffle!

Bought a new horse 1 month ago - had 2 stage vetting all ok.
Got horse onto yard and straight away noticed he was quidding very badly when eating hay (as in - 100% ended up on floor)
Got vets in straight away to rasp and they said his teeth had hooks and steps on them, took a lot of rasping and couldn't do it all in one go so would come back to finish off in 3-4 months.
Horse was still quidding a couple of weeks later, checked with vets and also with a vet at Your Horse Live and they said it was quite expected for him to still be quidding until the next bit of rasping was done.
So - got my main vet in (the ones that did the rasping were another practice that happened to be rasping on the yard just after I noticed the quidding so I used them as wanted it done quickly) to discuss nutrition/diet with them as was worried about horse not being able to eat hay whilst stabled at night.

Relayed to the story to him...saying that I had been told it was quite normal for him to still be quidding until rasping was finished - straight away he told me this is not the case and something else must be going on.

Within minutes of looking in my horses mouth he discovered that he had 12 teeth on lower jaw (each side) instead of 11 (which is very rare) and that because there wasn't enough room two teeth nearer the front had rotated so there was diastima (spaces that got filled with food) and one of them had led to periodontal disease (disease going into the ligiment of the tooth that could spread around jaw if left). Then discovered the tooth with the disease was loose so out it came!

My horse is only 11 and has obviously had very bad tooth ache for god knows how long - he immediately was able to eat a full hay net without quidding a single scrap. I feel so sorry for him as this problem had obviously not been addressed for years so who knows how long he was suffering.

If I had not asked my main vets to come and discuss nutrition then this could have gone on and on and caused more problems.

The vet that came specialises in teeth and has his qualifications. He was able to extract the tooth right there and then in the stable as he was able to sedate etc.

So please please please get your horses teeth checked and maybe (not necessarily and EDT) but get a vet who specialises in teeth every now and then.

I used Western Counties Equine Hospital on the Devon/Somerset border and cannot thank them enough.
 
Glad you got that sorted.

Can never understand how people can be so neglectful of their horses' basic needs. My horse has diastema too, and needs regular attention.
 
Strange that the vet doing the rasping didn't notice it was not normal in there!

Yes but not just him...all those before him too - just shows that you put your trust in professionals and assume they are all trained to the same level and see the same things. I'm sticking with my current vet now - felt like giving him a big hug at the time! :D:D
 
Interesting post for me today, similar situation, I bought a horse 2 weeks ago, he passed a 5 stage vetting but I was told he definitely needed a dental as soon as possible (he had to be transported and has had just over a week to settle in and get into routine), today he was sedated by a vet and had his teeth done by an equine dentist, he had sores along the inside of his mouth and his tongue, he is rising 7 and the vet/dentist don't think he has ever had his teeth done, just glad he came to me and we got him sorted properly, no lasting damage done and now he will go to six monthly checks as you would expect. It such a shame that he was left in such discomfort and regularly ridden/hunted with such a sore mouth poor boy.

Glad you got yours sorted too OP makes your heart go out to them knowing how much discomfort they have had poor things
 
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he is rising 7 and the vet/dentist don't think he has ever had his teeth done, just glad he came to me and we got him sorted properly

Exactly the same as that - I'm nowhere near being an expert so totally shocked at how this went on so long with my boy without anyones else dealing with it.

Glad you got yours sorted too OP makes your heart go out to them knowing how much discomfort they have had poor things

Yes and well done for sorting yours out too - here's to many many happy years together without any unnecessary discomfort!
 
It's become more of a specialist job, now people are realising there is so much more going on in a horse's mouth than a few sharp points. Vets are upping their game because, with the best will in the world a newly qualified vet cannot possibly have had as much experience and skill and have seen anything like the variety of mouths and issues that a correctly trained EDT with a few miles on the clock will have had. The training available to EDTs and vets is the same, as are the exams in this country.

Many EDTs also go over to America where the dental science is advanced (they have been at it a long time as a specialty) and providing the right school is chosen, the knowledge to be gained is considerable.

Out there, vets have largely handed this area over to EDT's, or as is happening here, vets are training throughly.

The definite advantage a vet has over an EDT is their license to sedate. Where sedation is advisable for safety and welfare of horse (and practitioner) they have the upper hand. It should not be used unnecessarily - just to make a vet's job easier.
 
Exactly the same as that - I'm nowhere near being an expert so totally shocked at how this went on so long with my boy without anyones else dealing with it.
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Couldn't agree more this is my first horse and we found the problem and solved it straight away it could have easily been picked up by people who are more experienced than me. I am lucky to have found a very good EDT and the vet was lovely and watched the dental work so when she comes to do his second vaccination in a few weeks she will check his mouth at the same time
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here's to many many happy years together without any unnecessary discomfort!
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Well done for getting to the bottom of the problem.

I had a similar experience to Moogleberry. Bought a competition horse after a 5 stage vetting. Organised her new horse MOT- farrier,physio, saddler, EDT etc.

The EDT thought she had probably never had her teeth done (she was 11 yrs old). She had hooks, very sharp edges and the sides of her mouth were covered in sores.
How many owners have the attitude; 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' ? But how many of those owners ever look inside the mouth they are putting a bit in ?

My EDT is fantastic, manages to get the most difficult horses to settle without sedation and educates the owner.
 
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