Egusin SLH

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Have seen various people on here recommending this and I am currently halfway through a tub. My trimmer recommended trying it as she felt my horse most likely has hindgut discomfort. To be honest ulcers in some form has always been on my mind since getting her a year ago (straight out of racing). Although she doesn't have all the symptoms she has some, anxiety, teeth grinding and sometimes a resistance to leg aids. I haven't had her scoped, partly due to the fact my vets don't have a scope long enough and so I'd need to trailer her to somewhere to have it done and that hasn't been possible due to anxiety, and partly because being a stressy horse I don't really want to put her through the starvation followed by a trip to vets.

Trimmer reckoned hindgut problems more likely given her reactions to some palpating and her stance with one back foot turned out, shifting back feet and a reluctance to hold them up for any length of time. So giving the Egusin SLH a go. Now I'm not sure if I'm seeing a difference in her or not, her symptoms were pretty mild, I have maybe seen a reduction in teeth grinding though. What happens once I finish the Egusin SLH, it seems from the website the SLH is more of a treatment? Giving the gut the correct environment to allow ulcers to heal? And seems that you just use it for the three weeks that the tub lasts providing you've seen an improvement. Do you then go onto Egusin 250 as maintenance? If I'm honest I'm going to struggle to afford that long term. The SLH is £80 odd for a three week supply, the Egusin 250 is £68 for a 3 week supply. That's quite a lot of money so am wondering if some other maintenance supplement would do. Before putting her onto the Egusin SLH she was on Equimins Inner Balance and Brewer's Yeast which I think definitely helps her. So maybe I'll just go back on that once I've finished the SLH course.

Thoughts?

I do also wonder if she may be a candidate for gastroguard treatment, I really don't want to put her through a scope and it would be difficult to do until I can travel her successfully, but it seems likely given her background she may well have ulcers in foregut too. Having said that she has a nice weight on her, good appetite and is not particularly girthy or grumpy to be groomed or rugged. Maybe the odd grump being rugged... She's on a forage based diet with ad-lib hay. Not sure what to do for the best, scope, treat, carry on as is. Some of her symptoms could easily be put down to anxiety and also a young horse not understanding what she's being asked (she's 4). She is also a lot better than she was so I maybe shall wait and see for a bit before deciding whether gastroguard is worth a try.

Edit to say: Wrong section , this was meant to be in Veterinary but no idea if I can move it!!
 
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I have a horse who is on Eugsin SLH all the time .
I have certainly seen his health improve during this time but who can say if it's the supplement I won't take him off it though .
He had the blood test for hind gut ulcers and that was clear of course that does not mean he was not suffering hind gut stress .
He has a complicated medical history it was thought unwise to starve him for the scoping but he's had thousands of pounds worth of ulcer medication during his period of ill health so I was never sure what the point would have been .
 
Hmmm, well I suppose if the Egusin SLH helps and a return to her previous supplement seems to show a worsening again, I may have to be on Egusin SLH all the time. But not sure yet if it is making a significant difference. She's also on a forage plus hoof balancer which isn't cheap so that plus the Egusin constantly would be a bit scary!! Although of course I will do it if it genuinely helps her.
 
Oh I know that all too well! Shall see how we go on it over the rest of the tub. I do like the forage plus balancer, it's very good.
 
I do think it is brilliant stuff. I know someone who had their horse scoped before and after using Egusin and the horse scoped clear - it is expensive though.

If you can get hold of VistaEq, it is extremely reasonable and proven, I've swapped mine to try and save some money!
 
PorkChop said:
I do think it is brilliant stuff. I know someone who had their horse scoped before and after using Egusin and the horse scoped clear - it is expensive though.

If you can get hold of VistaEq, it is extremely reasonable and proven, I've swapped mine to try and save some money!
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Never heard of that, I googled it but came up with nothing. Is that definitely the right spelling?
 
Trimmer shouldn't really be "diagnosing".

It is possible to get a scope done at home. If your vets don't have one though, would they be willing to do a gastroguard trial
 
My vets use a visiting consultant (Tim Brazil) to scope at your horse's yard so they don't have to travel. Given a lot of my mare's problems are around her anxiety over food I was dreading starving her the night before, but she behaved impeccably. I do think its worth a discussion with the vets. I was insured so the scope was the straightforward option but if you aren't then they might be happy to prescribe the meds to see if it makes a difference.

The scope did show ulcers for my mare - but they weren't bad and I'm sure there are a lot of undiagnosed horses out there with worse. What it also showed though was an inflamed stomach which was probably more the cause of her discomfort
 
wench said:
Trimmer shouldn't really be "diagnosing".
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Really?.................

OP, it's a brilliant product. I would love to spend that little on supplements though!

Mine never showed any improvement on omeprazole based products. He did respond very well to sucralfate thought and we've gone from strength to strength.
 
wench said:
Trimmer shouldn't really be "diagnosing".

It is possible to get a scope done at home. If your vets don't have one though, would they be willing to do a gastroguard trial
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She was just suggesting that in her experience the symptoms and signs my mare was exhibiting has been indicative of hindgut discomfort. As it is notoriously hard to diagnose ulcers in the hindgut I wouldn't say she's diagnosed it as such. It's something that's been on my mind anyway, she just suggested a product I could try.

Vets don't have a long scope, I reckon they would do a trial. And I may consider getting a travelling vet in as suggested to do a scope without having to move her. But as her symptoms are mild and could be put down to a lot of other things I'm going to hold off on that for a little longer. I really think she'll struggle with the starvation.
 
nikkimariet said:
Really?.................

OP, it's a brilliant product. I would love to spend that little on supplements though!

Mine never showed any improvement on omeprazole based products. He did respond very well to sucralfate thought and we've gone from strength to strength.
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Well as an owner you should not really be taking a diagnosis from a trimmer that would be very unwise .
As trimmer your breaking the law if you do so .
However we don't know how it was said it's likely it was more a I have seen using X help horses like yours than a your horse has xyz wrong with it type conversation
 
SEL said:
My vets use a visiting consultant (Tim Brazil) to scope at your horse's yard so they don't have to travel. Given a lot of my mare's problems are around her anxiety over food I was dreading starving her the night before, but she behaved impeccably. I do think its worth a discussion with the vets. I was insured so the scope was the straightforward option but if you aren't then they might be happy to prescribe the meds to see if it makes a difference.

The scope did show ulcers for my mare - but they weren't bad and I'm sure there are a lot of undiagnosed horses out there with worse. What it also showed though was an inflamed stomach which was probably more the cause of her discomfort
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I have discussed it with my vet in the past, so it's definitely something I may re-visit and get done. At the time he suggested she go on their gastric supplement as he'd seen some success with it, but I didn't notice a difference. She is so much better than she was and I think I'm seeing a further improvement on the Egusin, but I will certainly go for a scope/and or gastroguard treatment if things get worse or don't keep improving. I'll probably discuss it with him again when he's out for her injections which isn't too far away. Inflamed stomach sounds painful, is that a result of excessive acid too I presume?
 
nikkimariet said:
Really?.................

OP, it's a brilliant product. I would love to spend that little on supplements though!

Mine never showed any improvement on omeprazole based products. He did respond very well to sucralfate thought and we've gone from strength to strength.
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I thought it was a lot of money haha! Have read about sucralfate as well so could be something else to keep in mind to try.
 
Goldenstar, that was exactly how the conversation went. She has seen the symptoms before in horses with hindgut discomfort and said she had seen good results with Egusin. That was all! She was hardly saying, your horse has hindgut ulcers, treat with this immediately! Just a bit of helpful advice on an issue which has been on my mind a lot.
 
Goldenstar said:
Well as an owner you should not really be taking a diagnosis from a trimmer that would be very unwise .
As trimmer your breaking the law if you do so .
However we don't know how it was said it's likely it was more a I have seen using X help horses like yours than a your horse has xyz wrong with it type conversation
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Common sense says the latter..................................................................
 
Equishure has rave reviews, I used it for a month when I suspected hind gut ulcers and he did look more comfortable for a short period of time (was diagnosed with arthritis shortly after)! It was definitely doing something though as I had about 2-3 extra poos per night for the time he was on it! I think it's about £40 for a 20 day supply at the full dose
 
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