Electric Collars now banned in Wales

I think regulation rather than a ban would have been preferable. These collars are sometimes used when reward based training has not worked. Some dogs are not interested in titbits or toys, but work very well with a collar, and respect it, and as a result do not get shocked by it, nor even warning buzzered.

For those dogs, this will be a death sentence. Not a good thing.
 
Was just about to post the same!!

I agree that there is a place for everything and in the right hands this is a valuable training tool for a dog which listens to nothing else. How on earth do you police it though?!
 
I think a regualtion would have been a better option aswell, funnily enough we had just thought about the possibility of using a collar on one of my dogs as we ahve tried and tried and had trainers try to stop him from barking and going for strangers when they come on to our property, we have had several complaints from various people and the post office and I just feel that it is only a matter of time before someone more official becomes involved. Short of locking him up all day so that he can not go out in the garden we just dont know what else to do and were recommended the collars as an option. I know he would learn very quickly if he were to wear one. But i do understand that with anything there must be some form of regulation as there are to many people out there who will miss use the collars and cause harm and upset to the dogs. As with many things it is a difficult grey area.
 
Bladdy rediculous, imo!

Yes, they cause pain, but so do boots, sticks, tin cans full of stones and anything else you can aim at your dog. Okay, so the collar is more specifically aimed at causing 'harm', but as has been said, many dogs, once they respect them, do not need to recieve a shock!

It's completely impossible to police, if I was to cross the welsh border with a dog wearing a collar, no one would know. And what about the dummy collars? Are they banned because it means you've been using an electric collar? Or are they legal because they don't actually cause harm.

More hippy legislation to please the bunny hugging masses with no thought for the implications on animal welfare. I hope, and quite rightly, that the police ignore it.
 
agree with the above, they should have brought in regulations not a ban. A friends GSD would probably not still have been alive if she had not used an electric collar to control his dog aggression (under experienced guidance). This dog has recently gained his WD Ex working trials qualification, this includes a down stay for 10 minutes, handler out of sight. No way would she have been able to achieve this if his aggression hadn't been controlled.
 
I agree. E-collars have saved lives and I have seen it myself.

Sorry to sound patronising, but if you have seen some of the dogs I have, not just GSDs, hard hard animals, with fight drive, prey drive, pure spunk and no sense bred into them for generations, with that drive misdirected or gone to a home who got overwhelmed, to the extent it becomes dangerous, for whom 'naughty naughty' and a little treat just won't cut it, turned into very sociable members of society, then you wouldn't want to see e-collars banned.

Regulated yes, banned no, in the right hands, they can, like I say, save lives.
I have never used one myself but I have used the pinch, well documented here, and if I hadn't I don't know what might have become of my boy.
 
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