Equest Pramox worming concern

Dolcé;10516097 said:
The plain Equest also covers encysted redworms and it was the plain Equest that led to our mare foaling a full month early,.
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Sorry to hear about your mare - BUT - how do you know it was the Equest caused her to foal early? There are a number of reasons a mare foals early, and even if she did it within 24 hours of being wormed, that would not prove the product ws to blame (altough worming MIGHT be whatever the product.)

I've been worming my broodies with Equest 2-3 months before foaling for literally years - to get the encysteds -nd never had a problem. (I don't worm any closer to foaling than that.)
 
marydoll said:
There is so much resistance to panacur i dont use it now
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I agree, my anglo arab has been ill, a scan of her intestines showed inflamation in her small intestines, my vet (who specialises in internal medicine) thought it could have been an infestation of red worm, she was done with panacur 5 day guard in the autumn.

He told me that there is a resistance problem with this wormer, she was wormed with equest & she quickly recovered (although she got worse before she got better due to the red worms dying inside her)

My poor mare looked like a welfare case & really suffered as a result, she's always been wormed regulary & I was shocked that she could become so ill so quickly as a result of 1 dose of ineffective wormer.

On vet's advice I've now completely changed my worming habits so hopefully there won't be a repeat.
 
I have used Pramox annually midwinter for several years now on our small yard (25) & have experienced 2 cases of colic with it: once with a newcomer who turned out to have very sensitive guts & the other with a youngster who had a burden (unbeknown to us & despite FEC testing). I think PRAMOX is a fab drug so long as you use it properly: it is STRONG & should be used with caution on sensitives. My criticism would be that in many of the places one can buy wormers the SQP is either unavailable or does not volunteer any advice: consumers have to seek it out for themselves, which is part of responsible husbandry really, but many people seem to be blissfully in the dark when it comes to worming.
 
I have heard equest can cause colic because it is strong and gets the job done, in other words it removes the worms which is what causes the colic symptoms. So horse had worms so to speak. I would err on the side of caution when giving a horse bute/danilon without vets permission first if suspected colic, i was really told of by my vet for doing this because he said it would over shadow the symptoms if the colic got really bad, considered myself told off lol.
 
Not with pramox. But I did with Equimax tablets! I gave my horse who is 565 kilo so I gave him 5 tablets. 28 hours later u found him colicing with blood all over the stable I panicked rang the vet and basically thought it was encysted red worm though gut wall. He went straight to Leahurst where we ran up a £4500 vet bill 10 days later he came home. He basically had a reaction and his gut wall was absolutely fine- couldn't find a bleed and was scoped twice a day had a full mot on everything in his body including splene
 
I used Pramox for the first time this autumn and my 10 year old mare looked uncomfortable as soon as I had given it to her, she had never reacted like this to any other wormer I have used. She didn't eat her feed or hay for awhile afterwards which is unheard of for her. I was worried she was suffering a reaction and walked her from her stable out to the field and eventually she started to nibble the grass. She was quiet all evening but luckily seemed fine when I went out late to check on her. It was enough to put me off using the product again, I think it was too strong for her.
 
Oh dear I have just bought some..musing now whether to use or not. How does on know if there horse is sensitive. I have never had any other problems with other wormers.
 
I have used equest without any probs - was using panacur but it wasn't working. I haven't used equest pramox as i have read about a few bad reactions on here.
 
I've used it without problems, but I don't worm too often, have worm counts done, keep fields clean and always use Milk Thistle Powder for a couple of weeks before worming and continue use for a couple of weeks after worming or until all used up!!
 
I used this pramox on Tuesday morning and by 3pm my horse was dripping in sweat but showed no other signs of colic,continued to check on him and rang the vet for advice who said it is a common reaction to the wormer,will never be using again.i only used it on vets advice int he first place
 
9tails said:
As a sidenote, I made the mistake of pulling off the little plastic stopper with my teeth this Sunday. Good heavens, the stuff tastes absolutely awful. No wonder the horses object to it.
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I did the very same when I used it last year. It was vile and stayed with me for the rest of the day. Needless to say- it went straight in the horse's mouth, NOT in the feed!

None of mine had any reactions to the pramox.

And picking up on the overdosing point- I always read the leaflet inside and they give you figures on overdosing trials. I seem to recall pramox was 7x with no effect? Recently the equine vet actually told us to over-estimate weight and over-dose rather than under-dose.

OP- hope your horse is feeling back to him/herself soon. Colic is never fun. :( x
 
We use Equest and Equest Pramox on all the horses on my yard and have never had an issue, interestingly my mare reacts quite badly to Panacur 5 Day, she goes very dull and listless for the whole 5 days she is on it, and a couple afterwards. Due to this and the fact that i don't feel there is any point using it as there is so much resistance to it I now use an Equest when the rest of the yard uses Panacur (Vet has ok'ed this)
 
We gave our horses pramox last year, two came down with very severe colic (we didn't expect them to make it through) and the other horse went off all food for about a week and had to have several vet visits to tube him. They've never reacted to wormer before and all were perfectly healthy - I think it's a very effective wormer but just too strong for some horses. I've heard quite a few similar stories too, won't go near it again. x
 
Not colic but Pramox has made two of my barefooties footsore. I'd rather use Equest and then Equitape a couple of weeks later. And a course of Pink Powder before, during and after just to help their digestive system.
 
My old boy who has had hind gut problems developed lami for the first time 2 days after worming him with Pramox in Dec. Nothing else had changed in his diet or management and there were no frosts. I am kicking myself.
 
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