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Thought I would share this.

Do not shoot the messenger I got this first hand from my fully high qualified Equine dentist.



This does not slate - put down- diss those who use a vet for their horses teeth.

In the old days the veterinary association wanted to do everything in the horse world including trying to rid farriers as they said * anything put into a horse should have a vets consultation and before a farrier could put a nail in the hoof they had to phone their vet to get the go ahead.


The farrier association took it to parliament at explained the horses hoof was dead and there fore should no need a vets go ahead before nailing on. This was passed.


Now the veterinary association is trying to rid Equine dentists. Saying they have no need for them. > This will probably be passed as there are few Dentist in the Dentist Association.

The Equine Dentist need us clients to start a petition and facebook page.

if anyone wants to do this feel free I will sign I prefer my dentist to the vets job any day I have seen the qualifications mine has and the vent s don't have this except 2 who go to the AGM meetings and know what the dentist are up to and report back.

If they get it pas0sed they will start on equine masseuses and other natural physios.
 
Thank you L.

Do we have the source of this? I've sent a text to my dentist to ask if she's heard about it.

Definitely prefer to keep using my dentist for the teeth, my farrier for the hooves, and my vet for everything inbetween.
 
MrsMozartletoe said:
Thank you L.

Do we have the source of this? I've sent a text to my dentist to ask if she's heard about it.

Definitely prefer to keep using my dentist for the teeth, my farrier for the hooves, and my vet for everything inbetween.
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Here you go its above Mrs M:)

Got this from him this morning he came to do 7 of our horses
 
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Honestly I want EDTs to have more training and vets who want to do dental work to have more training. I only trust vets who are specialists in teeth. So much has changed with Equine dental work in the last 30 years and a lot of that is taken from work carried out by small animal vets. I am pleased this issue is being taken up by the vets as hopefully we will end up with a position where people who do dental work have to be fully qualified and can sedate where this is necessary. I get the feeling that some EDTs will really push the limits and do work without sedating when any dual qualified vet would sedate. By no means are all EDTs like this but until there is a statutory body for Equine dental work have like the vets and farriers have and like solicitors have for their work I am not happy to use an EDT who has to get a vet in to sedate and so is under pressure to manage without. I do not advocate blanket sedation but I like to know the person doing the dental work can do that or will get it done. You just cannot do some work as effectively without that.
 
As far as I'm aware this is not the case. At present Lantra has been working with individuals and organisations representing veterinary and equine welfare as well as EDTs themselves, in order to develop National Occupational Standards (NOS) for equine dental technicians. This development has been supported by Defra, the RCVS, BAEDT, BVDA, BEVA and WWAED as well as individual EDTs. My understanding is that this will clarify what can be done by suitably qualified EDTs and limit what can be done by unqualified individuals.

The ultimate aim is for full agreement to be reached by all those concerned and an exemption order passed so this is all legally binding. BEVA currently run their exam for EDTs and vets so it would seem unlikely that they would support making illegal procedures they are currently involved in training and examining EDTs to carry out. It's interesting that the petition doesn't specify what qualification it's referring to - at present the DEFRA approved qualifications are the BEVA/BVDA and WWAED ones with any other ones not being recognised.

The BAEDT appears to be working hard to help in this procedure and is dilligent in ensuring all it's members maintain standards and undertake regular CPD. If horse owners were more aware of the legislation and qualifications in the UK and only used those suitably trained and qualified it would make work much more difficult to come by for those who cut corners with training and registration.
 
Cocorules said:
Honestly I want EDTs to have more training and vets who want to do dental work to have more training. I only trust vets who are specialists in teeth. So much has changed with Equine dental work in the last 30 years and a lot of that is taken from work carried out by small animal vets. I am pleased this issue is being taken up by the vets as hopefully we will end up with a position where people who do dental work have to be fully qualified and can sedate where this is necessary. I get the feeling that some EDTs will really push the limits and do work without sedating when any dual qualified vet would sedate. By no means are all EDTs like this but until there is a statutory body for Equine dental work have like the vets and farriers have and like solicitors have for their work I am not happy to use an EDT who has to get a vet in to sedate and so is under pressure to manage without. I do not advocate blanket sedation but I like to know the person doing the dental work can do that or will get it done. You just cannot do some work as effectively without that.
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Right so from your post my guess your either a vet or you use a vet to do your horses teeth??? Even at my vets the one who does the teeth has not the high qualifications that my EDT has. That is why HE will do my horses teeth and all my yards, since one of the liveries had a vet do theirs 2 months ago before she moved here and now today he had the EDT who showed the owner everything the vet did not do she saw the ledges the steps the points that were NOT done.

Did you know there are only a handful of vets who have the full and I mean full qualification to do horses teeth!!!
How much more training is a fully qualified EDT supposed to have in your eyes???
you can check who is qualified here.
http://www.baedt.com/members_5357.html

I don't see EDT giving a horse a sedative as medicines that need to be injected into horse is a veterinary's job. it also doesn't stop there if the horse has an allergic reaction to the sedative then you have to call a vet so defeats the object.:rolleyes:


The whole point of this petition Is the Veterinary Association want to hold all the cards, thus making EDT redundant, as I said they wanted to make it so Vets did the nailing in on shoes too , would you want this to happen?? and charge astronomical prices as vets will just give a sedative to make their job easier thus pushing the price up if a horse is difficult to shoe!.

If you use a vet for your horses teeth then why bother posting and starting a debate????

this thread is for us who trust our EDT more than a vet to do our horses teeth and by signing the petition we express we want our EDT to continue to do them
 
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just for info this is the response I got back;

Thank you for contacting BAEDT regarding equine dental qualifications.

Unfortunately, currently the law is such that anyone, regardless of qualifications, may undertake certain basic dental procedures in equids. These are termed ‘category one procedures’ and relate to routine/basic tasks such as hand rasping using manual instruments. The service provider’s of category 1 procedures need not be qualified, nor members of any association should they so choose. In an ideal world, we would like to see all EDT’s suitably trained and qualified and we are working towards this with several other organisations.

Then there are category two procedures which are considerably more complex and include the use of motorised instruments/wolf tooth extractions etc. These are strictly restricted to qualified Equine Dental Technicians who have undertaken either the prestigious BEVA/BVDA exam or the WWAED level 2 exam. In order to be a member of BAEDT, an EDT must have passed the BEVA/BVDA exam, and indeed it is only on passing this specific exam which would identify the EDT as fully qualified (regardless of additional or previous qualifications). Even having graduated with a degree in equine dental science/studies, would not define the EDT as qualified to practice cat 2 procedures. The only exception to this rule is if the EDT is collecting the cases required in order to apply to sit the examination with BEVA/BVDA – for instance, BAEDT offer a student membership package which allows graduates of the BSc Equine Dental Science (and other approved courses) support to collect these cases. Without knowing which EDT you employ, I wouldn’t be able to advise you as to where in the process your EDT is; it may well be that they are looking to sit the next exam and join BAEDT in the new year. It is very common for Graduates of equine dental science to take the exam and join BAEDT around a year or two subsequent to graduating.

Currently, there is no legal requirement for any EDT to be a member of any organisation however, by joining the BAEDT the public are assured that their chosen practitioner has attained a high level of training, clinical skills and expertise with the advantage of links to specialist referral centres if required. All our members abide by a rigorous code of conduct and have to complete regular high class CPD, in addition to providing evidence of insurance to practice – we like to think BAEDT membership provides the public with peace of mind when considering their horses dental health. Furthermore, when the law does change, BAEDT members will continue to be entitled to work.

Perhaps if you might be able to let us know the name of your EDT and we can see if they are enrolled into the exam process or indeed our student membership, and if they have not yet registered their intent to attempt the exam, perhaps we can support them into making a start.


Thank you in anticipation
 
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