Eventing Lawsuit

So here we go again! Horse and rider never had a clean jumping Intermdiate event, even had 6 poles down in 1 and Retiered in her previous Intermediate leading up to the CCI**

OK Honey I really think your ready for the CCI** at Galway Downs.

And now she is gone! ring a bell anyone???
 
2 of their daughters died...I feel for her I really do
however, they are supposed to be knowledable horse owners and I think the article said they own an equestrain facility? Surely they should have realised by now that eventing is a dangerous? and not just eventing but horse riding in general is dangerous...I agree safety measures need to be in place but I feel horse riding safety procedures, although not perfect has improved one hell of a lot.
Horses are un predictable and accidents happen
 
maybe a new rule needs to be brought into place, that you can't run at a starred event unless you went clear xc at your previous event. most sane people wouldn't want to run at a 3-day unless the horse was going really well anyway. i can remember years ago a certain top rider taking a horse to Badders that had had a terrible Spring preparation, sure enough it got eliminated... lucky nothing worse happened, i guess. what is it with these people, are their egos too big for them to be aware of the dangers?
although i totally agree with Danny Warrington, who said that it is the riders' attitudes that need to change, not the sport or the rules. eventermen, have you read his article? i can cut and paste it or send it if you like. also, the Jim Wofford article on eventing safety, falls etc makes fascinating, enlightening reading.
 
Very sad for the family but does seem to be the American response!
I must admit having been to Badminton then seeing Kentucky highlights a few weeks after I was appalled by the much lower standard of riding at Kentucky - esp given its a 4*!!! And that was without seeing the horrific falls...I still saw horrendously unbalanced partnerships..someone kicking and flapping trying to attempt to jump something solid from a standstill...it was painful!
I think with some exceptions the general standard of eventing in USA is a long way behind what we see here.
 
I totaly agree!!

Should goes as follows.

Intermediate levels must have 3 competition with 0 XC Jump No more then 15 Time penalties and no more the 2 poles and if you have a retirement or elimenation you lose 1 Qualifiying competition

Yes people 2 poles after watching rolex and baddy this sport should be disraced The show jumping world must pass the Rolex and Baddy DVD around with a laugh track

Show jumping so horrile these days its a joke
 
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Very sad for the family but does seem to be the American response!
I must admit having been to Badminton then seeing Kentucky highlights a few weeks after I was appalled by the much lower standard of riding at Kentucky - esp given its a 4*!!! And that was without seeing the horrific falls...I still saw horrendously unbalanced partnerships..someone kicking and flapping trying to attempt to jump something solid from a standstill...it was painful!
I think with some exceptions the general standard of eventing in USA is a long way behind what we see here.

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I agree to a point and I am an American. Baddy's SJ was a disgrace just as Rolex was but I would agree Baddy XC showed better riding. Ill also agree that in General the UK has the upper hand in quality riders Also if you take the top UK Riders at Baddy most had good SJ rounds and I cant say that for the US Riders at Rolex What bothers me is how 6,7,8,9,10,11,12 yes 12 poles isnt frowned upon at the 4 star level anywhere
 
well, i sincerely hope the showjumpers have something better to do. the eventers don't pass round videos of the showjumpers riding round with the horses' heads locked down in place in draw reins, waggoning them round, and laugh at that.
riding a horse in the sj at a 3-day, as i'm sure you know, isn't always the same as at a 1-day. they can come out after all that exertion as if they've got 4 flat tyres... i've been there. that, compounded with the habit of looking over the fences, seeing xc strides, etc, can mean that some of the sj rounds are a bit ropey... but i thought there was some great riding at Badders. haven't seen Rolex sj so can't comment. the little bit i've seen of the xc at Rolex was either sublime (the best riders), okay, or pretty shocking.
personally, i worry much more about that than about the slightly dodgy sj rounds...
agree about the qualifications, btw.
also, how about having a system where fence judges can mark riders that they think rode their fence particularly badly, and if 1/3 or 1/2 of the fence judges concur about one rider (i.e., say, 8-12 or more black marks for a novice round), they get a warning and must take a xc lesson before competing again? or is that too draconian for words?
 
Problem with fence judging here in the US is its an all voulenteer system and we have clueless (though appreciated) judge fences sometimes. SOMETIMES PEOPLE!! Spare me your yelling

An example The Advanced Tuesday Horse Trial at Rocking Horse in FL... Getting Judges for XC on a Tuesday is I am sure a very hard task. So after jumping clean XC my wife was called to the office to see the TD and was told a fence judge said you jumped #25 in an unsafe manor. I was shocked and thank god I had taped it and we where cleared of any wrong doing. I agree with you but we need to pay these judges or all fences must taped and if a fence isnt in easy veiw of the cameras then the more qualified judges need to be at those fences
 
Well at least the odd dodgy SJ round doesn't usually result in a horse or rider fatality. Its the quality of the XC riding thats of more concern.
There are some very good Americans and Phil Dutton stood out head and shoulders at Kentucky from the clips I saw, but there also seemd to be some combinations that didn't look much better than lower level Riding Club!
 
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