Excellent news for the LONG HAUL TRANSPORT OF 23 SPANISH HORSES

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The Italian police of Savona stopped a Spanish lorry with 23 horses on board headed for the slaughter houses of Bari (very bottom end of Italy) as the lorry was without authorisation or tac (?). The horses have been impounded and placed in a suitable structure (stables I presume) and the driver has been fined a WHOPPING 8 BLOODY THOUSAND EUROS!!!!! At last, justice is being done
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I pray that this is just the beginning of many fines etc. I am sooooooo happy
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Great news Mairi--remember another transporter getting stopped doing something similar
23 is a hell of a lot on one load--scary
Any clever who can work out how far that is??
Just wonder what will happen to horses confiscated
 
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Fantastic news!!! That's an outrageous distance to transport horses - did they go by boat or all the way by lorry?

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All the way by lorry
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And who knows which part of Spain they left from
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If they went the whole way by lorry and came out of Northern Spain, it would be about 1000 miles, if they came from Southern Spain it might be nearer 1800 miles.

I know it's 1200km from near the bottom to the top of Spain.
 
i watched a video on utube about a lorry in america that was taking horses to slaugther, they had cramed in 56horses i think it said and the lorry had an accident, many were wounded but the ones that survived were rehomed... its awful
 
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i watched a video on utube about a lorry in america that was taking horses to slaugther, they had cramed in 56horses i think it said and the lorry had an accident, many were wounded but the ones that survived were rehomed... its awful

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Someone thought it was a good idea to close all the slaugher houses in the US. And the horses being transported for slaughter to Mexico suffer the most dreadful ordeals.
 
Nice to see the law working in favour of the horses
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This will hopefully serve as a bl**dy good warning to other illegal transporters
(8 thousand euros??? oh I bet that hurt
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Great news, and may they continue to catch the bustids, how can this be a financially viable operation for them anyway?

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It can only be that the bottom has fallen out of the market in Spain so basically the transport costs are the main expense.
 
Hang on a minute! You guys forget not everyone on this planet lives in their neighbours pocket like you lot!
If you have an issue it should be with the conditions of the transport not the DISTANCE...honestly 1000km is SFA in the big picture!
Where we live we ship horses to both coasts on a very regular basis...around 2000km in either direction...and they do it fine.. and remember we are in the middle...many horses are shipped the full East /West distance and maybe the North/South run on the East or West coast aswell as part of their trip! Total distances can easy go from 4000km to 7000km (the 4000 is VERY common, the 7000km would be a rarity, but happens) They distance is never the issue if it's done correctly, you guys are just too used to everything being right next door!

If we do a run to a show in our state capital and return, we don't pull up a long way short of 2000km for the trip...and the horses compete in the middle of it!
 
I'm sure they'd travel very well in your lorry - but yours would be in no fit state to do anything if you were in theirs, travelling under exactly the same conditions they do!
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I hope this lesson is learned and news travels fast through other horse transporters.

I still haven't understood why they can't be quickly and humanely despatched they put on refrigerated lorries to their destination
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Sometimes I hate living in this nonsense world
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I strongly suggest that you have a look at World Horse Welfare's Make A Noise campaign. As others have said, we are NOT talking about good conditions here. The evidence that WHW have collected is genuinely shocking.

They are always looking for people to get active about this, their website has details on what can be done to help these horses. As you can tell, I spend a lot of time on this site!
 
SOME are talking about distance as if it is the issue...but it IS the CONDITIONS of transport... 10km in the wrong conditions is too far... Forget the distance involved at all and don't make a focus of it as some are doing! Attack the conditions! Start draging the focus off the real problem by ranting about distance and you loose the argument with the public who hears all the time about horses travelling the world.

P.S. Occasionally the trasporters from WA will fill otherwise empty bays with "killer" horses as far as Peterborough here in SA where there is an export horse abitoir... They do the 2500km trip with the same treatment as all the other horses and get off happy and healthy...but it is only the economics of filling an "empty" bay that makes it pay... The normal price for that bay would be about 3 times the return on the horse! I'm sure if they had to self fund, they would need to jam them in ...but our laws do not allow it. We shoot huge numbers of horses, donkeys and camels in the wild, but the are only for pet food..only those killed in the 2 certified places in Oz, one in Qld and one in SA, can do human consumption, yet roos are shot in the wild for human consuption all the time!
 
Totally understand what you are saying but you no doubt offer feed/water on route
You have I think many miles of straight uncluttered road in Oz
Our show jumpers/eventers travel the continent in luxury temperature controlled lorries covering as many miles as you do in Oz with horses arriving ready to compete next day.

This is not the same thing
I have spent many hours taking a horse to competitions around the UK and being stationary in heavy traffic in a heat wave on the M6 or A1 or constant stop start is just not the same ball game and much more tiring but with regular stops, hay net and offer of sloppy beet pulp we got to destinations in good order.

These ''meat'' horses do not get properly fed, watered or rested on these journeys--''rules are made to be broken'' the lorry mentioned by Mairi had no tachograph so no recorded log of the journey.
Please have a look at WHW Make a Noise campaign
http://www.worldhorsewelfare.org/makeanoise/
We will never stop the demand for horsemeat as a food but we can continue to campaign for it to travel on hook rather than hoof but the Italians like to think their meat is produced and processed in Italy.
 
What Gekko failed to mention too, was that the abattoir at Peterborough has very strict policies on horses that it will allow through the gates and pay for.

Any horse that is sent there MUST be 'healthy' - in that it cannot have a broken leg, it cant be in obvious pain or violently ill.

If it is, it is put down and the people dont get paid for it and can end up with a visit from the RSPCA for having sent an animal off in obvious pain......

The horse transporters will not put a horse on that is not sound to travel the distance. That includes their weight - there is also a weight lower limit on the horses allowed in at Peterborough as well.

This stops people sending their half starved, can barely stand horses - and makes them put them down at home.

Heat here can be unbearable.... it is nothing for some of the days in summer to be 48* - 50*C in the shade.....

Heck, we travelled a yearling and a 25 yr old just on 2000km in summer once (NO choice on the time of year we could do it at that point), but did it sensibly - short periods of time on the float which was well ventilated, stopped regularly for water and feed breaks, and time off the float in the shade - sometimes it was cooler to keep travelling than it was to stop as there was no breeze a couple of times..... It was around 43*C to 46*C at that time.

We drove in the night when it was only around 35*C.....

The two horses got off at the other end in perfect condition and happy.

So the distance and the heat was not the problem - they were transported in the correct manner and all care was taken.
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I have a huge problem with people transporting horses when they are overcrowding and not offering water, feed, and rest stops to make the trip completely humane and comfortable for the horses.
 
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