Falling Out Through outside shoulder

[CaleruxShearer]

Was schooling shearer, my mad little Welshman this afternoon, was being surprisingly good for him, however when I put him on a circle he kept falling out through his outside shoulder, tried changing my whip over but made no difference, Could it be the way i'm riding? Does anyone have any ideas of exercises or any ideas at all really about how i can change this ?

Thank You

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[Nickijem]

Keep a contact in the outside rein - think inside leg, outside rein. My instructor helped us by telling me to keep his neck straight and use my leg to turn him. It helped me and it encourages Jerry to work in a much better outline without him falling out through the shoulder.

 

[jess_asterix]

Keep his neck straight throughout the circle, so little inside rein pressure but keep the contact and a firm outside ride.

Use a schooling whip on the outside shoulder, keep the outside leg forward to control the shoulder and the inside leg on to create the bend in the ribcage.

As soon as he starts trying to push his shoulder and increase outside leg pressur and if no response tap on shoulder with whip.

Make sure you keep the neck straight though as too much inside bend and it will make it much easier for him to fall out through his shoulder and not bring his back end round the circle.

I had to ride a horse yesterday who is a pain for falling out through his left shoulder. I now have no skin on the inside of one of my knuckles but my god it was worth it because he went FAB in the end

 

[CaleruxShearer]

Thanks Jess

 

[Booboos]

He is likely to fall out on the same shoulder on both reins (horses, like humans, are right or left handed), but it will be easier to 'feel' him on one rein. So, for example, if he is falling out on the left shoulder, on the right rein on a circle if you give and re-take the outside rein he will drift outwards. To correct this bring him into a bit of counter-flexion and then straight again, repeat often. Also try leg yielding from 20m circle to 10m circle but with even so slight a counter flexion (don't pull with the outside rein to do this, use your outside leg and ask for flexion with the outside rein). On the left rein he may feel a lot better but the problem is still there and he is likely to be overbent to the left. Again straightening exercises and leg yielding should help.

 

[BethH]

Agree with Booboos but also imagine your circle is a hexagonal and as u aim for each point turn your upper body including your head to look at the next point, you will automatically be steering through your sternum and shoulders which will help and take your upper body weight a little further back. Counter bend is an excellent way to resolve this, try 6 paces inwards bend, 6 paces straight and the 6 paces outside (counter) bend and keep repeating, it works well for my horse who can be a nightmare with this.

 

[EquestrianFairy]

My mare used to do this (not the one who is now preggers)
my vet said she was quite stiff so had a chrio out to check her over and sorted it.
She never fell out from it again.