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Hi Ester, I've finally managed to get some photos of Jesters feet, still a little pottery on Concrete but looking much happier in the field, thrush is only superficial, frogs are healthy , any thoughts?
 
Do you want comments from anyone else? Ignore if not.

Does he always stand camped under at the back like that?

Who is sculpting those frogs?

Have his heels been trimmed short or are they wearing those big flat areas themselves?

They look rather flat. If so, have you made any diet changes to improve it?

I'm sure you'll have answered some of these on other threads, but for completeness, and to save me looking them up, I thought I'd ask on here.
 
He doesn't usually stand like that, I think it's because I had been messing with his feet, he has been recently trimmed by a farrier who now does barefoot but as a result is very sore, we are transitioning and his heels, bars and quarters were really long but have now been trimmed short to encourage weight on backs of feet and frog? Bit too much too soon for him :( I had been hacking in boots with success but now we've been set back :( he has a low sugar starch diet, minimal grass lots of forage, forage plus winter balancer with micronised linseed and steady up advance, small amount of speedi beet and molasses free chaff
 
katymay said:
He doesn't usually stand like that, I think it's because I had been messing with his feet, he has been recently trimmed by a farrier who now does barefoot but as a result is very sore, we are transitioning and his heels, bars and quarters were really long but have now been trimmed short to encourage weight on backs of feet and frog? Bit too much too soon for him :( I had been hacking in boots with success but now we've been set back :( he has a low sugar starch diet, minimal grass lots of forage, forage plus winter balancer with micronised linseed and steady up advance, small amount of speedi beet and molasses free chaff
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again please delete if you don't want other people's comments. I would be looking at the central sulchus, the last pic for example. Is it sore if you poke it gently? On some of the pics it looks as if it could be deep and possibly sore.

By trimming the heels so short is he now landing with all his weight on the frogs? It is difficult to tell from pics but it looks possible.

Were the heels and bars really too long before the trim or were they in fact right for this horse just not how your farrier wanted the foot to look?

To get the horse to land on the backs of his feet (heel landing) he has to be comfortable to do so. You cannot force that by over trimming.
I remember your earlier thread. Hopefully now Esther has sorted out a decent trimmer for you. Hopefully the farrier will stick with shoeing.
 
He isn't sore in his central sulcus I can prod it and it's not deep or squishy, his frogs are level with his foot so he isn't taking all his weight on them, hard to get it to show on a photo,
Before the trim he was landing heel first despite them being long and I guess the trimmer has trimmed for the ideal foot shape rather than what he needed, wished I had left them alone and let him wear them down himself but felt that because he was booted this wouldn't happen :( how long will it take to recover? Gutted
 
Just a question out of interest why were you using boots? if he was sound and growing plenty of foot with a heel first landing I would have stopped using boots and allowed him to self trim as much as possible, it may slightly limit your rides for a while but once he is comfortable enough to do so get the boots off, mine have never had boots, even the tb did all his rehab from a tendon injury barefoot and they pretty much self trim when doing enough roadwork although recently they have been growing more than the wear.

From the photos I would be gutted if my farrier had trimmed the frogs and heels as much as yours has in one go, he is trying to force a heel first landing which now will be uncomfortable and defeating the object, they will recover probably fairly quickly if the diet is right and he normally grows at a fast rate, don't despair he will be fine, just never let that farrier near them again.
 
Hi be positive, I was using boots as he wasn't completely happy bare on his fronts due to wet weather and it's a bit stone chippy around here, the last hack I did only booted on front and his backs sounded and felt fab, he hadn't grown any foot apart from long toes, the walls around the sides hadn't caught up due to them breaking off when he lost the shoes so the quartets and bars had grown well so he wasn't even if that makes sense? I will find a photo pre trim that might show?
 
That makes sense, I remember now he kept losing shoes and breaking his feet, hopefully he will toughen up over the spring and summer and grow some decent feet so you can move on and enjoy him.
 
katymay said:
Photo pre trim as you can see his bars and quarters were too long to give any frog contact with the ground
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Good grief no wonder he is sore! What a stupid amount of trimming to do in one go. You've been so let down, unfortunately. I glad you are sorted with another trimmer, not a farrier who doesn't know what he's doing (some do!). He'll be fine in a week or three. Please don't beat yourself up, this is not your fault!,
 
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