Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
Does anyone have a horse with a feed allergy?
If so, what are the symptoms, and how did you find out?
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If so, what are the symptoms, and how did you find out?
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Feed allergies?
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ajn1610
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Come across it once but it's not my horse. He came up in lumps like a rash all over his tummy, very uncomfortable not happy to be touched and very out of sorts. Vet took bloods and put it down to an allergy though to exactly what we never found out.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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Come across it once but it's not my horse. He came up in lumps like a rash all over his tummy, very uncomfortable not happy to be touched and very out of sorts. Vet took bloods and put it down to an allergy though to exactly what we never found out.
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Did the rash last long? Did the feed have to be changed before it disappeared?
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Come across it once but it's not my horse. He came up in lumps like a rash all over his tummy, very uncomfortable not happy to be touched and very out of sorts. Vet took bloods and put it down to an allergy though to exactly what we never found out.
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Yay! Someone answered
Did the rash last long? Did the feed have to be changed before it disappeared?
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ajn1610
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They took him off everything including grazing he was in with just soaked hay. He perked up almost immediately and lumps took a few days to go down. After a week they reintroduced feed stuffs one at a time and monitored him and he was fine. It was weird as they hadn't changed his diet or anything. Vet said could have been something flowering in the field that set him off, also he said that if they are a little immuno compromised with a virus or something it can cause a temporary reaction because their gut gets 'leaky' and the body raises an immune response to the food particles that pass into the blood stream. Never had a problem before or since so who knows!
piebaldsparkle
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Mine gets diarrhoea if fed anything with Mollasses in it and a rash when fed anything with Barley. Both disappear in a few days if these are removed from her diet.
Jane_Lou
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Many years ago when we golden oldies fed straights I added barley to my mares diet as she had dropped a little weight in the middle of winter. The next morning she was covered in what looked like nettle rash over the bulk of her body and neck. I cut the barley immediately and they cleared up with 48 hours. barley intollerance is quite common in horses and in modern feeds barley is quite a common ingredient.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
My 3yo is supposedly allergic to fly bites...and has a strange urticarial rash on her neck, lower shoulders, on her chest, a little bit around her udders, and either side of her tail.
I duly bought a Rambo Protector - and cover her in fly repellent...but the skin rash comes and goes strangely, and it doesn't seem itchy...she doesn't rub it or scratch it, there is no blood....
I am starting to wonder if she's got a feed allergy?
She only gets Graze on, Meadowherb Blend (couple of handfuls), Speedibeet, and a vit/min supplement...
Any thoughts?
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I duly bought a Rambo Protector - and cover her in fly repellent...but the skin rash comes and goes strangely, and it doesn't seem itchy...she doesn't rub it or scratch it, there is no blood....
I am starting to wonder if she's got a feed allergy?
She only gets Graze on, Meadowherb Blend (couple of handfuls), Speedibeet, and a vit/min supplement...
Any thoughts?
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YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
We had a TbxWelsh that was intolerant of/allergic to any number of feed stuffs. The list was, grains of any type, but mainly wheat, molasses, polo mints. She had skin problems and also was loopy, at one time (before we discovered the problem) she was having to be led by two people. We were seriously considering having her PTS. As well as the skin rashes she was coughing quite a bit, this also stopped once we removed the feed. The biggest problem was that she had withdrawl for three days. If we did this again we would reduce the feed more slowly. We stopped the sugars first and she went wappy. The current Appy cannot tolerate alfalfa, she is normally sharp, but gets out of her own control if on aalfalfa.
ajn1610
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Take her off one thing at a time see if it makes a difference. Could it be heat rash?
Shilasdair
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Take her off one thing at a time see if it makes a difference. Could it be heat rash?
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I did think about the weather - but she's sometimes worse on very cold days...and better in hot..so that doesn't support it.
I don't tend to rug her too much tbh - she had a MW on all winter, living out (she's 3/4 TB).
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Take her off one thing at a time see if it makes a difference. Could it be heat rash?
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I did think about the weather - but she's sometimes worse on very cold days...and better in hot..so that doesn't support it.
I don't tend to rug her too much tbh - she had a MW on all winter, living out (she's 3/4 TB).
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Shilasdair
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We had a TbxWelsh that was intolerant of/allergic to any number of feed stuffs. The list was, grains of any type, but mainly wheat, molasses, polo mints. She had skin problems and also was loopy, at one time (before we discovered the problem) she was having to be led by two people. We were seriously considering having her PTS. As well as the skin rashes she was coughing quite a bit, this also stopped once we removed the feed. The biggest problem was that she had withdrawl for three days. If we did this again we would reduce the feed more slowly. We stopped the sugars first and she went wappy. The current Appy cannot tolerate alfalfa, she is normally sharp, but gets out of her own control if on aalfalfa.
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Her behaviour is fine - she's a little laid back dudette...but maybe I should try removing the course mix...she gets four handfuls a day...do you reckon half that tomorrow then reduce to nothing over the course of a week? And keep feeding the rest?
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We had a TbxWelsh that was intolerant of/allergic to any number of feed stuffs. The list was, grains of any type, but mainly wheat, molasses, polo mints. She had skin problems and also was loopy, at one time (before we discovered the problem) she was having to be led by two people. We were seriously considering having her PTS. As well as the skin rashes she was coughing quite a bit, this also stopped once we removed the feed. The biggest problem was that she had withdrawl for three days. If we did this again we would reduce the feed more slowly. We stopped the sugars first and she went wappy. The current Appy cannot tolerate alfalfa, she is normally sharp, but gets out of her own control if on aalfalfa.
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Her behaviour is fine - she's a little laid back dudette...but maybe I should try removing the course mix...she gets four handfuls a day...do you reckon half that tomorrow then reduce to nothing over the course of a week? And keep feeding the rest?
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piebaldsparkle
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I would take her off all feeds, the introduce them one at a time at weekly intervals.......................alternatively you could get you vet to do allergy tests.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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I would take her off all feeds, the introduce them one at a time at weekly intervals.......................alternatively you could get you vet to do allergy tests.
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What sort of price range are we talking for allergy tests? And how long would it take?
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I would take her off all feeds, the introduce them one at a time at weekly intervals.......................alternatively you could get you vet to do allergy tests.
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What sort of price range are we talking for allergy tests? And how long would it take?
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Jane_Lou
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I would be inclined to cut out all the feed and then gradually re-introduce each item giving 4-5 days see if it re-occurs before adding the next item. Just one final thought - my connie is allergic to fly spray, louse powder, insecticidal shampoos etc and washing powder. He comes up in non itchy flat disc like swellings if he comes into contact with anything like this, is there any chance it could be an enviromental factor?
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
That sounds like a good plan Shils, the vet tests are a waste of time IMO. I would leave her without for at least three weeks before re-introducing anything, also if you feed any treats I would give those a miss as well. Thank goodness her behaviour is ok. Ours had at one time been very underweight and the woman we bought her from had fed her too much too quickly to put condition on her as a youngster and I think that is why she had such a severe reaction. Interestingly my sister also has loads of food intolerances (fortunately not too bad heviourly
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piebaldsparkle
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Not sure on the price (as I went down the cut out all feed and introduce one at a time route), but think the results are almost immediate, believe they inject several spots with different things and see which ones react. Only trouble is you may find out your horse is allergic to certain grasses etc... which are impossible to avoid in most cases. Mine is so intollerant to sugars, even grass at certain times of the year has too much for her.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
Right, inspired by you guys, I'm going to start off by taking her off the cereal, and the vit/min supp in case it's cereal-based...leave her on the Graze on as it's just dried grass, and the Speedibeet, and her required daily allowance of apple.
Then I may try getting her a Sweet Itch rug to see if that helps.
Any other ideas for my poor lumpy girl?
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Then I may try getting her a Sweet Itch rug to see if that helps.
Any other ideas for my poor lumpy girl?
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Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
Oh, I meant gradually take her off the cereals, take the supps away, and the few treats she gets...poor thing.
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YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
Hadn't read properly what you fed her, stop the speedi beet as well. It was cane sugar that upset ours, but I think beet can do it for some as well.
( I have become something of an expert as we also had a Rottie with food problems, also from a poor start and then overfeeding, I think I should write a book)
( I have become something of an expert as we also had a Rottie with food problems, also from a poor start and then overfeeding, I think I should write a book)
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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Hadn't read properly what you fed her, stop the speedi beet as well. It was cane sugar that upset ours, but I think beet can do it for some as well.
( I have become something of an expert as we also had a Rottie with food problems, also from a poor start and then overfeeding, I think I should write a book)
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I'm going to keep her on the beet initially...then remove it if the lumps don't disappear with the cereals. I can't take her off everything in case she turns vengeful
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She had a great start - came out as a fat foal, had the world's best mum, was only weaned when she was 9months or so, and has had in all ways a smug little youngster life...so don't feel sorry for her. If I tell you my OH's nickname for her as a foal was Blubberbutt, you should have some idea
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Hadn't read properly what you fed her, stop the speedi beet as well. It was cane sugar that upset ours, but I think beet can do it for some as well.
( I have become something of an expert as we also had a Rottie with food problems, also from a poor start and then overfeeding, I think I should write a book)
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I'm going to keep her on the beet initially...then remove it if the lumps don't disappear with the cereals. I can't take her off everything in case she turns vengeful
She had a great start - came out as a fat foal, had the world's best mum, was only weaned when she was 9months or so, and has had in all ways a smug little youngster life...so don't feel sorry for her. If I tell you my OH's nickname for her as a foal was Blubberbutt, you should have some idea
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YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
I think the behavioural diffs. tend to come with the poor start/overfeeding thing. Sister certainly didn't have a bad start, well not according to mother
Allykat
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One horse I knew years ago had an allergy to all cereals. She came out in an itchy rash and chhewed herself to bits more or less overnight. She always been an itchy mare but something triggered a massive reaction. She was taken off all food except soaked hay and then feed gradually re introduced. She was even allergic to equivite, so don't rule out the vit supplement. In the end she had a special diet of alfa nuts and alfa A with sugar beet in the winter. She also had seaweed which helped clear her skin up
Hope you get to the bottom of it
Hope you get to the bottom of it
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
We had a full on outbreak of urticaria with four of ours with seaweed!
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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One horse I knew years ago had an allergy to all cereals. She came out in an itchy rash and chhewed herself to bits more or less overnight. She always been an itchy mare but something triggered a massive reaction. She was taken off all food except soaked hay and then feed gradually re introduced. She was even allergic to equivite, so don't rule out the vit supplement. In the end she had a special diet of alfa nuts and alfa A with sugar beet in the winter. She also had seaweed which helped clear her skin up
Hope you get to the bottom of it
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Damn, she's on Equivite.
I'm going to ditch it for her as of tomorrow, reduce the mix til it's gone completely, and avoid feeding treats.
If that doesn't work, I'm going to beat her severely for being unhelpful
And then remove the sugar beet, buy her a sweet itch rug...and so on...
If she wasn't such a character, I'd have to have her stuffed.
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One horse I knew years ago had an allergy to all cereals. She came out in an itchy rash and chhewed herself to bits more or less overnight. She always been an itchy mare but something triggered a massive reaction. She was taken off all food except soaked hay and then feed gradually re introduced. She was even allergic to equivite, so don't rule out the vit supplement. In the end she had a special diet of alfa nuts and alfa A with sugar beet in the winter. She also had seaweed which helped clear her skin up
Hope you get to the bottom of it
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Damn, she's on Equivite.
I'm going to ditch it for her as of tomorrow, reduce the mix til it's gone completely, and avoid feeding treats.
If that doesn't work, I'm going to beat her severely for being unhelpful
If she wasn't such a character, I'd have to have her stuffed.
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YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
I think that might work, the taxidermy, however you would need to ensure that the lumps had gone first, otherwise they would be there forever!
Shilasdair
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I think that might work, the taxidermy, however you would need to ensure that the lumps had gone first, otherwise they would be there forever!
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A good, if depressing point.
I don't want to give the damn lumps immortality (although I'm starting to feel I know each one personally).
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I think that might work, the taxidermy, however you would need to ensure that the lumps had gone first, otherwise they would be there forever!
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A good, if depressing point.
I don't want to give the damn lumps immortality (although I'm starting to feel I know each one personally).
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YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
Have you given the lumps names yet?
I think the current appy has an alergy to tree pollen, we both seem to cough and sniff at the same time, and as far as I know she isn't smoking roll ups, although I am. At least you can alter the feed, I just have to wait.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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I think the current appy has an alergy to tree pollen, we both seem to cough and sniff at the same time, and as far as I kno she isn't smoking roll ups, although I am. At least you can alter the feed, I just have to wait.
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My old TB is allergic to either tree pollen or, more probably, oil seed rape...she sneezes, snorts and rubs her nose.
I find Beconase squirted twice up each nostril two or three times a day helps her a lot...although in the first few minutes after spraying, she sneezes more...long term it does work.
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I think the current appy has an alergy to tree pollen, we both seem to cough and sniff at the same time, and as far as I kno she isn't smoking roll ups, although I am. At least you can alter the feed, I just have to wait.
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My old TB is allergic to either tree pollen or, more probably, oil seed rape...she sneezes, snorts and rubs her nose.
I find Beconase squirted twice up each nostril two or three times a day helps her a lot...although in the first few minutes after spraying, she sneezes more...long term it does work.
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YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
That could be useful, thanks, she has had an on/off cough for about a month, and it coincides with my allergy reaction, which is also made worse by oil seed rape. I am hoping that we will both improve in the next couple of weeks. Will get some beconase and give it a try.
PapaFrita
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One of mine got urticaria and vet suggested it might be barley. I stopped feeding it and it cleared up.