feeding horse that ties up and has laminitis?

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hello, how should I feed my mare who has had azoturia and now laminitis? She has been on and EPSM type diet after her azoturia attack a couple of years ago and been doing really well - I thought - up to now that laminitis comes up; is it still safe to feed high oil diet? I think it may not be advisable? Have contacted feed company nutritionists but grateful for your advice too...
 
Bloody hell is your horse related to W? Yes oil is fine but some are better than others ie 'vegetable oil' is made mostly from rape and although the cheapest isn't good, something to do with the free radicals it contains.

Sunflower or soya oil is supposed to be the best but the main thing you need to ditch is the extra sugar ie molasses, that most companies add to Alfalfa including Dengie and D and H.

Plain alfalfa is safe for laminitics and won't have caused the tying up but as I said in your other post have a look at the Simplesystem site.
 
I'd get in touch with Simple Systems - their feed is cereal and mollasses free and consists of top quality forages. Jane is an experienced endurance rider - azoturia can be a common problem in endurance horses and her diet is very good for horses that tie up, it is also excellent for laminitics. www.simplesystem.co.uk
 
I guess you need to get to bottom of why she got laminitis and then take it from there. Oil shouldn't trigger laminitis, but check out your query on www.ruralheritage.com I'm sure there are a few messages following the same lines there and so there should be some suggestions.

There is a new line of thought that alfalfa can trigger laminitis is a select few horses and I'm sure some one mentioned that on here somewhere.

Goodluck with getting to the bottom of it.

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yours is like mine? not nice is it! Well, I thought the Alfa A Oil is molasses free which is why I chose it over the other Alfa A products. also should have said that she gets sunflower oil rather than veg oil ... sorry. She has been fine on my described diet for 2 years I introduced it for her tying up condition and now i am hit with laminitis, can't win...
 
I really sympathise and the lami thing can really get you down at times. Life becomes a constant juggle of how many hours grazing, how much what to feed and adjusting diet according to changes in the weather.

The thing not to do is beat yourself up for it. It's a flippin nasty, sneaky, soul destroying condition that creeps up to bite you on the arse and sometimes you never get to the bottom of the cause as often it's more than one thing. It can be say 20% trimming, 10% stress, 50% feed and 20% a change in the weather or any variation on these causes.

The good side is you've identified she's prone to it so now you can start to manage it. What has the vet told you to do for now?
 
Hi, thanks for this. I feel very helpless still at the moment. I thought I had got to grips with her being prone to tie up and controlled that and now this. Vet suggested to get Farrier out which I have done he is coming next week. Until then she is on box rest and bute, then see what farrier says and possibly vet again depending, I don't have a clue how to handle her management later yet, she is a poor doer too and needs as much turnout as poss due to her azoturia problems, we had restricted the grass anyway as her field companion is prone to colic so not sure that the grass has contributed I really dont know where to start ...
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Haven't read other replies but i would feed happy hoof.

My mare is prone to tying up and its the only thing she will eat. She even competes on just hay and chaff!
 
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