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Loulou23

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Last month I started a job at a private stables, just a few hours a week on the grooms days off, really lovely people, 2 ponies that are there for the grandkids to ride in the holidays, no stress just pop up hay and feed, poo pick, check them over and do a few odd jobs. 2 weeks ago the groom went on holiday so I increased my hours to cover her duties while she was away. All seemed fine, 1 of the ponies has EMS so they are kept on a starvation paddock and given rationed hay, anyway after the first rainfall in the grooms holiday I thought Princesses crest was a bit firmer than I would like so cut their hay down a bit and when the vet was out a few days later for jabs I asked her opinion (as i dont know the pony that well yet for what is her "normal", shes not like other lami / EMS ponies I know who have a constant big crest that is soft and floppy when everything is fine, her's isnt that well defined but does get firmer / fuller if that makes sense). She said Princess was a good weight and that previously she had been rather overweight so shes pleased that she is looking so good, agreed that the crest was a little firm but said rather than reducing hay we should soak it, so this is what I started doing. I also upped there exercise a bit but then worried that Princess was not very forward and as she has a history of back problems didnt want to push her too much but also didnt know her well enough to know if she was trying it on so opted for more in hand walks instead of lunging. Anyway groom returns and messages me to say that Fudge the native that lives out with Princess has come down with laminitis which shes never had before and that Princess has a huge crest so they are on box rest now and that Princess is going to have investigations on her hocks as she still wasnt right after the chiro visit. I know that ponies everywhere are coming down with Lami at the moment after it finally rained following on from the extreme dryness, and I know that in switching them to soaked hay and checking with the vet that I have probably done all that most would do but I'm feeling really bad and like I'm a total failure. Poor Fudge was a bit shuffly on his front feet on our last walk and did want to walk on the grass rather than the road but I didnt consider it to be the start of laminitis as hes so conservatively kept due to Princesses EMS and he had no history of it, also he had been being a totally pillock charging around the field the last few days so just assumed he was a bit sore from the hard ground. Please can someone kick me up the backside and stop me feeling so abysmal, or explain why I'm being such an emotional mess at the moment, Im crying over the lyrics to songs, being really clingy and soppy with my partner (which is not who I am) and last night couldnt sleep because I felt so bad for not doing enough to stop poor Fudge getting lami.
 

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The main thing is that both ponies are on box rest and off the grass now. It sounds as if they both probably have some sort of chronic laminitis that may be grumbling along in the background and the flush of grass was enough to send them off their feet right away. It’s not a nice situation but I’d be a bit kinder to yourself. If the vet thought they were okay then there was no immediate alarm bells for them to be taken off grass. What age are they? Do they possibly have cushings?
 

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Thanks HM, I'm really not sure what is going on with me emotionally at the moment but feeling that I failed these poor ponies and their groom has thankfully come back to save them along with worrying what the boss must think about my capability, has just tipped me over the edge. The ponies are both still quite young so not in a cushings risk catagory and the way they are kept to manage Princesses EMS I would have thought to be enough to prevent it but then again theres lots of careful owners out there who have fallen victim to it in the last few weeks. Vet saw them a week prior to the groom coming back but still its come on quickly as it does unfortunately in these cases. i dont know if its any use talking to my doctor about my emotions, maybe its hormones??
 

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It sounds like you have done everything you possibly could have. I would have been very pleased if you had been looking after mine, that you had taken great care.

I have a horse who previously had lami too, I would have been pleased you had consulted the vet and followed advice. Maybe the groom has his/her own issues and has not informed you of what has happened in the most subtle way?
 

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It sounds like you have done everything you possibly could have. I would have been very pleased if you had been looking after mine, that you had taken great care.

I have a horse who previously had lami too, I would have been pleased you had consulted the vet and followed advice. Maybe the groom has his/her own issues and has not informed you of what has happened in the most subtle way?
This. I think It sounds like you did great actually. You noticed changes and acted straight away off your own initiative.
 

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I've had almost the exact same thing happen to me, so focused on the horse with the issues I didn't spot the signs on the other one, these things happen. Realistically managing them both in a way to stay on top of the EMS pony should be enough to keep laminitis away but these last few weeks weather has been crazy and the grass is massively sugar loaded. First step would always be what you did, in this case they needed to move to step 2 which the groom has done on her return. Possibly if you were more familiar with them you might have known to keep them off the grass entirely a day earlier but I don't think that will have made much difference. I would be very happy if anyone looking after my girl cared this much.
 

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Call round when you know the groom will be there, say you have come to see the ponies and was there anything that you could possibly have done any differently? Totally agree with everything that has been posted, but I think it would settle your mind if you could hear it from the groom, instead of just a message. The recent weather has played havoc with health and exercise routines. Have a hug.
 

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Agree with the others, for an adhoc groom it sounds like you did your best and really cared. It's very different when you know ponies well.

I'm guessing the vet didn't think Fudge seemed to have laminitis or be worried about him when she saw him? If a vet couldn't see he was at such risk or had red flags then there really can't have been anything too obvious for you to have seen either.
 

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I'm sorry you're feeling so downhearted. A pony you looked after has had to be pts on welfare grounds. You did the best you could in the circumstances.
It was not your fault. Don't blame yourself. I'm sure the owners aren't and they will be pleased that you cared so much for his welfare.
 

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I'm sorry you're feeling so downhearted. A pony you looked after has had to be pts on welfare grounds. You did the best you could in the circumstances.
It was not your fault. Don't blame yourself. I'm sure the owners aren't and they will be pleased that you cared so much for his welfare.
Have I missed something ?
 

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I'm sorry you're feeling so downhearted. A pony you looked after has had to be pts on welfare grounds. You did the best you could in the circumstances.
It was not your fault. Don't blame yourself. I'm sure the owners aren't and they will be pleased that you cared so much for his welfare.
Pony hasnt been Pts, he's on box rest
 
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