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OK... so having moved my ponio a while back to my OH's dads place.. I made the decision that I wanted to remove the top liner wire of barbed wire.. the bottom is sheep netting which TBH I am also not happy with but can't afford to do it all at once.... HATE THE STUFF..

So this weekend that may be my mission to remove and replace the barbed wire!!.. however... what do I replace it with?

Do I just go with a top line of Electric fencing tape - To be un electrified which may encourage him to stetch over... ?

OR a plain wire?

Or what?! Argh!!!

Help me please.. in a perfect world I would love P&R but that just ain't gunna happen!!
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Why can't you electrify it?

I had the same at my new yard, have been buying extra tape, handles, posts etc every month!

But we do not have electric yet, so are trying to sort it from one energiser - nuther job for this weekend!

Have used some wood to replace the small barbed wire areas.
 
I would recommend electric fencing, you can pick up an energiser pretty cheap these days, we have one and run it off a car battery, if you go to local garages you often find they want to get rid of old batteries that still have lots of life in them!
 
cheapest and easiest is to run a strip of electric fencing about 10-20cm inside of the top strand of wire.
If you go to scats or somewhere similar you can buy boxes of insulated arms that you just screw into the fence uprights.
 
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Can you not replce it with a wooden rail?

[/ QUOTE ]No...

1) I don't have the money

2) It's not my place

3) The field is HUGE!!!

4) I will be doing it myself

5) I want it done this weekend!!
 
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assuming the sheep wire is attched to wooden posts, I would go with electric wire with these:
http://www.robinsons-uk.com/products/Productdetail.asp?ProductCode=41258

this should stop him reaching over or getting too near to the sheep wire which is notorious for pulling off shoes and causing nasty injuries..
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[/ QUOTE ]Yup I am aware of the injuries... he has snce i have had him been in a field with sheep wire at the bottom (old yard kept sheep too) and here we have the donkies and pigmy goats .. also need something to stop the dogs getting out of the garden (which back onto field)

Yup think the leccy fence extender thingys might be the way forward - however I think I still want to add something to the top of the fence post (inline with sheep wire) as he can be both sides of fence?!? plus donkies could get under leccy fence.
 
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Why can't you electrify it?

[/ QUOTE ]I can however the field backs ono the garden of the plus goes through woods etc... I don't

1) want anyone to ouch it accidently - especially kids

2) It to short out through the woods is a branch etc touches it

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I had the same at my new yard, have been buying extra tape, handles, posts etc every month!

But we do not have electric yet, so are trying to sort it from one energiser - nuther job for this weekend!

Have used some wood to replace the small barbed wire areas.

[/ QUOTE ]I have bought a leccy fence kit which I use in our big field to section off a small area for my boy.

Wood isn't an option as there is so many fences!!!
 
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I would recommend electric fencing, you can pick up an energiser pretty cheap these days, we have one and run it off a car battery, if you go to local garages you often find they want to get rid of old batteries that still have lots of life in them!

[/ QUOTE ]I have the kit and the car battery - as I said above I think the electrifying the top bit is gunna be an issue with the amount of kids/visitors we have coming/going to te house... who all obv want to go and see the horse!!
 
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cheapest and easiest is to run a strip of electric fencing about 10-20cm inside of the top strand of wire.

[/ QUOTE ]But ou see I want to replace the top strand as it is barbed?!
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If you go to scats or somewhere similar you can buy boxes of insulated arms that you just screw into the fence uprights.

[/ QUOTE ]Perhaps I will have to do both?!?
 
... I'm not quite sure we are imagining the same thing?

You have a couple of options, leave the sheep wire with barbed top exactly as it is and just run leccy strip inside to keep horse off the fence,

or

remove the barb and just use normal insulators with leccy in lieu of the barb ... however by doing that you still have the sheep wire issue.
 
From the point of view of visitors etc., don't forget that you don't have to have the electric switched on all the time. Once they have realised that it is electrified they will usually stay clear whether the current is on or off, so you won't have to have it on all the time. (Although I do know of a few crafty ponies who are quick to work out when the current is on!)
 
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... I'm not quite sure we are imagining the same thing?

[/ QUOTE ]We are - but my main aim is to remove teh barbed... 1) some of it is 'loose' but I must add not dangerous as inaccessable area for ponio!!
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You have a couple of options, leave the sheep wire with barbed top exactly as it is and just run leccy strip inside to keep horse off the fence,

or

remove the barb and just use normal insulators with leccy in lieu of the barb ... however by doing that you still have the sheep wire issue.

[/ QUOTE ]See sheep wire for my boy isn't an issue - he has ALWAYS been in a field with sheep wire, with me at previous yard and old owners too... *touches wood* he's not the sort to put his foot through it and I know accidents happen etc. but sheep go in the field so no option to remove.
 
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From the point of view of visitors etc., don't forget that you don't have to have the electric switched on all the time. Once they have realised that it is electrified they will usually stay clear whether the current is on or off, so you won't have to have it on all the time. (Although I do know of a few crafty ponies who are quick to work out when the current is on!)

[/ QUOTE ]Yes - thing is is the visitors won't know if it is on or off.... Hmm such a tough one.. thing is he doesn't lean over now so perhaps if I electrify for a week or so and put signs up then I can switch off.. only issue is the wooded area?!

Arggh nothings simple!!
 
If your electric fenncing is exposed to members of the public you are obliged to hang little plastic signs on it warning that it is electrified.

I would remove the saggy barbed wire, run a plain wire in its place (although you will need wire strainer to get it taut, very important) and then use the bracket things to run electric tape standing away on both sides of the fence. Get your little warning signs and an energiser and off you go!!
 
I don't think anyone is suggesting removing the sheep wire, just that if you have the insulators that stick out from the fence then it makes the sheep wire safer than if you just stick electric tape where the barbed wire was. As you are going to the trouble of replacing the wire anyway it makes sense to go for the safer option, even though you may think the risk is quite low.
 
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If your electric fenncing is exposed to members of the public you are obliged to hang little plastic signs on it warning that it is electrified.

[/ QUOTE ]It won't be exposed to the GP... just the people in my OH's garden .. anyone else in the fields woul be considered trespassers as it's private land!!
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I would remove the saggy barbed wire, run a plain wire in its place (although you will need wire strainer to get it taut, very important) and then use the bracket things to run electric tape standing away on both sides of the fence. Get your little warning signs and an energiser and off you go!!

[/ QUOTE ]Yes see this is the option I'm thinking of... erm wire strainer?! What is that? Was thinking of attaching wire with staples???
 
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I would just replace the barbed with white rope. I've done this with blue rope, cheaper than electric rope.

[/ QUOTE ]Hmmm but that doesn't help with the 'leaning'
 
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I don't think anyone is suggesting removing the sheep wire, just that if you have the insulators that stick out from the fence then it makes the sheep wire safer than if you just stick electric tape where the barbed wire was. As you are going to the trouble of replacing the wire anyway it makes sense to go for the safer option, even though you may think the risk is quite low.

[/ QUOTE ]It may make sense but cost is going to be an issue here I'm afraid.. yes shoot me down in flames and shout at me about vets costs etc... I would like to go with Spaniels suggestion... TBH it might be taht for now I can only afford the replacement wire.
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I think you must be imagining different things to what people are suggesting, because Spaniel's suggestion is what I was thinking of! She must have just explained it better! I have been googling to see if I can find a picture that explains it but no joy yet!
 
Depends if the horses are scared of white rope lol, Chex won't go within a metre of rope/tape incase it zaps him, even when its not electric. Strangely he's never been in a field with electric for at least 9 years :confused, he must have a good memory!
 
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I think you must be imagining different things to what people are suggesting, because Spaniel's suggestion is what I was thinking of! She must have just explained it better! I have been googling to see if I can find a picture that explains it but no joy yet!

[/ QUOTE ]No TGM I know exactly what you and others mean - however no-one else mentioned removing/replacing the barbed wire which was my MAIN objective.
 
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Depends if the horses are scared of white rope lol, Chex won't go within a metre of rope/tape incase it zaps him, even when its not electric. Strangely he's never been in a field with electric for at least 9 years :confused, he must have a good memory!

[/ QUOTE ]LOL - It's not the horse that is the issue it's the inquisitive donkies!!!
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I'm very confused now! So are you going to just go for the option of replacing the barbed wire with plain wire and leave it at that, or are you going to add electric fencing to it as well.
 
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I'm very confused now! So are you going to just go for the option of replacing the barbed wire with plain wire and leave it at that, or are you going to add electric fencing to it as well.

[/ QUOTE ]I am going to hopefully do both replace the barbed with plain wire and add the leccy fence with the plastic extender things so that it is away from the sheep netting... HOWEVER... at this stage it depends on how much it all costs... so for now may have to only replce the barbed and get the leccy brackets at a later date (as said above)
 
That makes sense now - at first I thought you were opposed to the idea of the sticky out extenders! You may find you only need to electrify certain parts of the fence where there are temptations that encourage them to lean over - so that would help keep costs down.
 
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That makes sense now - at first I thought you were opposed to the idea of the sticky out extenders! You may find you only need to electrify certain parts of the fence where there are temptations that encourage them to lean over - so that would help keep costs down.

[/ QUOTE ]I have loads of tape - purchased prior to holiday, the electric box, car bat and stuff - it'll be the fixings that'll cost... oh and do you think I'd need EVERY fence post? Or every other?
 
I think you would probably need to do every fence post - I think it would probably sag and blow in the wind if you didn't. Might be worth looking on Ebay - you can get quite good deals on electric fencing on there so you might be able to get the insulators cheaply.
 
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