Fight or Play?

[TheresaW]

I saw this on FB. If the link works would be interested in what people much more clued up than me think.

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[Errin Paddywack]

Play I think.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Fairly normal GSD style play, they're assholes.
SBT not so happy.

 

[AmyMay]

Play also from me.

 

[ihatework]

Play

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

Ooh I will be interested to see what others say. I thought play, quite intense play that I wouldn't feel comfortable with but I'm not familiar with the breeds. It seemed fairly back and forth but maybe at points looked a bit uncomfortable/too tense.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Boisterous play with much bitey face, but it could have escalated.

 

[TheresaW]

What about what the poster was saying?

The huskies play like that.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Yeah all fairly sensible advice.

 

[blackcob]

I see play, but the GSD is being a bit thuggish (expected) and the SBT is just starting to get a bit ratty, GSD starting to back off at the end but SBT keeps coming, time to call a time out before it spills over into handbags.

 

[skinnydipper]

I watched it without sound because I didn't want to disturb sleeping beauty here.

Play, but the staff was full on and the GSD was getting fed up.

 

[IrishMilo]

Playing. I've had Staffies all my life. Trust me, when they're not playing, it's not a question...

 

[KittenInTheTree]

Playing.

 

[TheresaW]

Thanks everyone. The huskies do play rough. The collie will play husky style with Luna, but when he tries with the 2 boys, they look at him with a what are you doing face.

 

[Aperchristmas]

Absolutely playing - both dogs regularly "bow down", ie. ask the other dog to keep playing. It's quite rough obviously, and I would also make sure it didn't go on too long to avoid the risk of escalating.

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

Every single day my two labs have a mad 15 minutes or so exactly like that. Yes sometimes it does look a bit over excited and full on but I only have to call out an 'OK thats enough ladies' and they both stop immediately and go and grab a toy from the toy box and have a play with those. I don't even have to be watching to know when its time to calm down, I can hear them behind where I sit and the smaller ones play sounds get more high pitched and hysterical, she is a bit of a hyperactive little toad sometimes and the other one will stop immediately, sit down looking disgusted while the little toad races around and around the downstairs until she flops down exhausted.

As I got them both as 3 year olds (totally unrelated) the first couple of times it happened I have to say it was a bit worrying and very hard to not step in immediately, but eventually we could recognise when it was playtime and when it was time to tell them enough excitement for one day.

 

[meleeka]

Fairly normal GSD style play, they're assholes.
SBT not so happy.

This is why mine doesn’t have any friends. Shes too full on and the only dogs that wouldn’t mind are the same as her and she’s scared of them . That looks like a very happy GSD. I agree, the Staffi looks to be a bit unsure if the GSD is still playing.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

On a related GSD note, @CorvusCorax, I regularly see a GSD with colour I've never seen before en route home. It's almost pinky brown, absolutely beautiful, nothing like the standard colours I see on others, longhaired. I'll have a look for a picture when I go downstairs.

Liver, apparently, like this but much prettier!

 

[Moobli]

Play. Rough and quite intense. My two WL GSDs play like this regularly. They both play the same and understand the rules. The collies aren’t so keen on such physical play (they enjoy chasing but not the physical barging and neck biting GSDs often do).

 

[CorvusCorax]

On a related GSD note, @CorvusCorax, I regularly see a GSD with colour I've never seen before en route home. It's almost pinky brown, absolutely beautiful, nothing like the standard colours I see on others, longhaired. I'll have a look for a picture when I go downstairs.

Liver, apparently, like this but much prettier!
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Liver. Verboten. As are blues and whites but you can charge more for them now

Some solid blues can look impressive but the crazy colours don't do it for me.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Liver. Verboten. As are blues and whites but you can charge more for them now

Some solid blues can look impressive but the crazy colours don't do it for me.

So I read. This one is so gorgeous, tho!

I understand double merles etc being verboten, but why the other colours? Is it just traditional or is there a health reason? I'm not ever going to show, so haven't looked at reasons. I dread to think how much coat prepping it takes! I admire the fluffy dog owners who spritz up eg a keeshond for Crufts!

Must look up the blue!

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

I don't do FB so can't see the link but our 2 younger Labs ( both 2 yrs old now), our own brown one and Daycare Dog, can easily get over the top whilst playing. We have to step in, not so much because the play could turn into fighting but because something is likely to get broken. They wrestle, play 'Shark' and 'Norman Hunter' (bites your legs off) and charge about wildly in the house, given half a chance. Outside where it wouldn't matter so much they prefer 'sniff' and 'gardening".

 

[CorvusCorax]

So I read. This one is so gorgeous, tho!

I understand double merles etc being verboten, but why the other colours? Is it just traditional or is there a health reason? I'm not ever going to show, so haven't looked at reasons. I dread to think how much coat prepping it takes! I admire the fluffy dog owners who spritz up eg a keeshond for Crufts!

Must look up the blue!

It's a fault, they're dilute/lack pigment. I don't understand the comment about coat prepping? You can't show them. Well, you can, but by rights the dog should be ungraded/place withheld.
My longcoat (with undercoat) is the easiest dog I've ever had to groom/maintain.

 

[Moobli]

On “rare” colours this popped up on my fb feed this morning.
I’ve heard of and seen lilac border collies (there’s a few good working ones now) but never knew there was such colour in GSDs. Apparently it’s called Isabella.

 

[Clodagh]

I’m a bit of a poultry genetics nerd and it’s interesting how the dilutes in dogs often have the same name as in poultry.

 

[I'm Dun]

My 2 delicate-looking whippets play like absolute demons. Racing, wrestling, bringing each other down like prey all accompanied by ferocious snarls. They are best friends, know the rules and are respectful of the other saying stop, so I leave them to it. But I dont let them play like that with others. Not worth the risk.

 

[misst]

My terriers play like this with each other and Ruby does it with daughters terrier x daxie. I don't allow it with bigger dogs or with dogs they don't know. It sounds as if they are killing each other with lots of biteface and boxing movements. However I do call time quite often if it is getting too noisy or one of them looks a bit overwhelmed. They do seem to go into "the zone" occasionally and that's the time to stop.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

It's a fault, they're dilute/lack pigment. I don't understand the comment about coat prepping? You can't show them. Well, you can, but by rights the dog should be ungraded/place withheld.
My longcoat (with undercoat) is the easiest dog I've ever had to groom/maintain.

Sorry, was looking at a keeshond and remembering what a trauma my childhood one was to groom. There's a litter currently up north, but I don't like the look of the parents (who are gorgeous). They're not my idea of how they should look, says she who knows bugger all, but they're eastern European imports, so not what I think they should look like. I'm clearly a sucker for punishment, I keep looking then remembering that hosing a keeshond would mean hours of drying, I mean, we made the world's warmest jumper out of Noot's coat!

On “rare” colours this popped up on my fb feed this morning.
I’ve heard of and seen lilac border collies (there’s a few good working ones now) but never knew there was such colour in GSDs. Apparently it’s called Isabella.

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Definitely more like what I keep seeing. I think it's beautiful! I wanted to say lilac, but thought that was restricted to collies.

 

[blackcob]

I think whether it's referred to as lilac or isabella is just custom and practice within the breed, I understand it to be a dilution of liver in either case. Plug for this really interesting dog coat colour genetics page.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Sorry, was looking at a keeshond and remembering what a trauma my childhood one was to groom. There's a litter currently up north, but I don't like the look of the parents (who are gorgeous). They're not my idea of how they should look, says she who knows bugger all, but they're eastern European imports, so not what I think they should look like. I'm clearly a sucker for punishment, I keep looking then remembering that hosing a keeshond would mean hours of drying, I mean, we made the world's warmest jumper out of Noot's coat!

Definitely more like what I keep seeing. I think it's beautiful! I wanted to say lilac, but thought that was restricted to collies.

To you beautiful, to me, a fault. Might as well call soft ears or a high tail or missing teeth "beautiful". If it happens, it happens, if you breed deliberately for it, one does not have the breed's best interest at heart. Breed standards are there for a reason, otherwise it's just a homogenous thing we call 'dog'.