Final colour question

[mariond]

Sorry to ask again but this time I have photos

I have a chestnut filly (Maysie) born on the 1st May Do you think she is turning into a liver chestut or a darker chestnut or what ? Sorry the photos are not that good but she is very friendly and wants to be close. She has dark patches around her eyes approx 1" of mane that looks like it needs retouching with the dark roots and dark patches where ever (and theres quite a few !) she has managed to rub hair off.

Horse groupie I would be glad of your comments as I notice you are well informed re colour. Her dam is a dark bay who's sire was Achterman - dark bay and dam was Welton Rosalinda dark bay. Her sire is Charmur Setters Hill - piebald whos sire was Lockstock Blue and who's Dam was by Oberon so where the chestnut comes from I don't know.
Any comments appreciated.

 

[sikaran]

Not really sure, but both the dark bays I bred were bright bay when they were born and went dark when they lost their woolly foal colt. Bred my first chestnut last year and she has remained bright chestnut (out of a bay mare and bay stallion!), so it looks to me like yours could be turning into liver chestnut. I'm sure there's someone else on here who knows much more about this than me!

 

[Fahrenheit]

I think your foal will be normal chestnut shade, I have had quite a few chestnut foals and i always think when they are losing their foal coat mmmmmmmmm your dark are you liver chestnut but they never are! If the parents were chestnut I could have given you possible shade chances from the combination but they weren't.
Chestnut is recessive so it can carry through quite a few generations without having a chestnut horse (its sneaky!) but from what you told me I can tell you where it probably cam from on the dam side and thats the piebald. Piebald is black with the tobiano (coloured) gene and there is only 2 ways to get black as a colour thats black/black and black/chestnut so that where your chesnut was probably hiding on the dam side. (I can go into great detail of the differences between the 2 blacks but i don;t want to send you to slepp - lol)
Anyway, back to your foal, I have found a pic of a foal of mine that was the same shade as your and came through looking that same muddy chestnut colour and I have got a now picture too for you. I don't know why they look darker when moulting the foal coat ive always put it down to an optical illusion of the lighter foal coat making it look darker.
Hope this helps! He is a little further on in the moulting process than yours but honestly he looked just like yours.

 

[mariond]

Thanks horsegroupie. I have only had one chestnut foal before and he never showed these dark patches so I just wondered. He was by a black stallion(which in knew sometimes throws chestnuts) so that wasn't to much of a suprise but this was.I did expect a plain colour but a bay not a chestnut. The previous same cross was a skewbald foal. I didn't know that a piebald carried the chestnut gene. Many thanks for your explaination & photos.