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Well i rode my girl for the last time on Friday! I have decided enough is enough she is never going to want to do dressage or infact be touched by humans!! She has frustrated me for the last 7 years and i am not paying out any more money, so i'm handing my notice in today at my posh yard and putting her out to grass. Just trying to find somewhere at the moment, i do have a back up but don't really want to use that yard.
Im planning on putting her in foal next Spring but for now i just need a break and some peace and quiet!! I am really sad but i guess i have known for a long time that things are just not going to work out.
Anyone else suffered at the hooves of a horse that has no desire to be worked?
 
Sorry to hear that
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Do you know why she is so anti people, which would lead me to ask why you wish to breed from her!
 
Oh yes! I had a mare who did not want to be ridden, and went through heart-break to make that decision. However it was the best thing for noth of us and she is now very happy being looked after in a wonderful home looking a million dollars, and I know I made the right decision.
 
She has hormone problems! Breeding is just the final straw, im hoping i will get lucky and have something decent to ride at the end of it. I can't bear to have her pts when she is so sound.
 
Don't know the story here, but if she doesn't like being handled could you not have problems breeding from her. We would love to have a foal from my daughters outgrown pony, but she is very nervous, and a total pain for vets, farriers etc. so we felt it would be asking for trouble to breed from her, because there is every chance she would teach a foal to be the same, and if she had any problems foaling etc it would be a nightmare. Of course you know your mare and she may not be as bad as that, sounds like you have persevered for long enough with the dressage!
 
Basically everything you would want a horse to do she doesn't and everything you wouldn't want a horse to do she does!!! Its been a long hard fought battle but we just don't see eye to eye!!
 
Sorry to hear that - i've never come accross it myself but must be frustrating!

Personally I would think long and hard about breeding from her as the foal may inherit the mares temperament then you would have 2 to keep that you couldn't ride
 
i dont know anything about breeding so forgive me if it sounds like im talking out of my ass, but if you put her in foal wont the hormone problem get worse? then she really will be a nightmare! xxx
 
Sorry to hear you are having such problems, but do think carefully before putting her in foal. Temperament and trainability are core requirements in a horse and if both are lacking, you may well breed another difficult horse.
We had one like that and we had it euthanised I'm afraid, when you looked hard at the likelihood of her injuring someone if she needed help (she was very vicious after being fired as a two year old so understandably wary) and the fact she may breed similar temperamented animals we had no choice.
(she had been dumped on us for three years by her non livery paying owner)
I'm not suggesting you follow the same path but I don't think I would attempt to breed from her...
 
Well no one can say you haven't pursevered. Having a foal might just sort her out. A friend of mine is doing exactly the same thing.
 
Sorry for being an idiot, I don't know your history. I presume that if she has hormone troubles, you have tried all the supplements?

Have you tried everything before you give up? It sounds such a shame.

However, I do agree with Weezy that if your mare has some sort of issue/ problem, wouldn't foaling her create a mini version of her? I'm not too sure that covering a problem mare would solve your problem.
 
Um...why would you put her in foal then?
I have a pony who when he was the only pony we had and worked for 3/4 of an hour with each of us sometimes (there were 3 of us) one after another, kept in 24/7, overjumped, walloped for things that weren't his fault, wouldn't do anything. Bucked, napped, refused. Funnily as soon as he became ride no. 2 and all pressure to perform removed, plus ample turnout he is a changed pony, although he will never be a jumping pony, he will jump small courses and enjoys himself.
 
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Can I just say that as none of us know the whole situatlin maybe it is not our place to question why she is breeding from her mare.

To give up riding her must have been a very hard decision to make - and at least now the mare is going to be of some use.

I think is would be much worse to dump her in a field.

BTW though temprament is important we have had 2 wonderful foals from a very quirky mare and both have been fine as groundwork was established from birth.

Personally I would never breed from something like that if it didnt have the right papers/credentials though however.
 
Yes i have tried everything, the vet has no more suggestions. I have had horse whisperers, physios, trainers, vets etc etc.
It is my last option, if it doesn't work then so be it!
 
BTW also I gave up on my mare for the same reasons - she woudl only do what she wants to do. Considered putting her in foal but instead she is now hunted and hacked to her hearts content....take her in a school though and you have every problem under the sun!
 
there used to be a horse called chesney at the stable where i rode, he was an [****]. dan would ride him all the time though, i rode him once or twice and he would rear, spin, buck - sometimes it looked like he did it all at the same time! he just seemed to say 'thats it, ive had enough! get off me now'

he was turned away, everything was tried with him and we thought we wouldnt be able to sell him. we did though, after about 4 months! and i hear now he doing ok, although still can be trouble. i can understand your frustration xxx
 
Thankyou FeuFolet thats a very ncie post.
I would never breed irresponsibly and im not doing to to sell on to another unsuspecting person, it would be for myself and if it created another problem horse then obviously i would deal with the situation. She is a very nicely bred mare and i aslo hope that with proper work from the beginning the foal could be prevented from becoming like the mare.
 
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BTW though temprament is important we have had 2 wonderful foals from a very quirky mare and both have been fine as groundwork was established from birth.

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good reply - i think ground work is essential and as long as the foal is handled well from birth and given the best possible start in life then i cant see a problem. obviously if its tempermant isnt going to be trainable/good then thats something that needs to be addressed later on.

I do think Fantasia is doing the best thing possible for her mare.
 
I truly believe that every horse has the right owner waiting for them and the right day job!

She may excel at a hunting or showing family!

If you don't gel then maybe break all ties and sell her on to someone she does click with - breeding her will just cost you more money and prob not make your bond with her any stronger

Good luck though whatever you decide x
 
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Thankyou FeuFolet thats a very ncie post.
I would never breed irresponsibly and im not doing to to sell on to another unsuspecting person, it would be for myself and if it created another problem horse then obviously i would deal with the situation. She is a very nicely bred mare and i aslo hope that with proper work from the beginning the foal could be prevented from becoming like the mare.

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Good luck fantasia I hope it all turns out for the best - obviously want to see loads of foaly piccies
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She did well at Young Horse Evaulations when i still worked with horses, but since then i have been too busy changing my career so she hasn't been out.
 
Unfortunately she is shocking at jumping!!! I would not sell her as i know she will just be pushed from pillar to post and that is not something i would want for her, i have owned her from 12 months.
 
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I truly believe that every horse has the right owner waiting for them and the right day job!

She may excel at a hunting or showing family!

If you don't gel then maybe break all ties and sell her on to someone she does click with - breeding her will just cost you more money and prob not make your bond with her any stronger

Good luck though whatever you decide x

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That may well be the case, in my mare's case she did have the perfect person waiting for her....to breed from!

I can completely sympathise with Fantasia having been through exactly the same thing, only difference was I know nothing about breeding or in fact horses under about 3yo, so rehomed my mare to someone who did have a clue...I wish I could have kept her as I adored her, but she is so happy where she is, I know I have done the right thing.
 
What was her temprament like then?

Maybe the change of pace affected her mentally.

Ho hum. Have you thought of Stallions?

She is a nice type but may I suggest you try and get something that is very laid back and trainable to cover her - I know the temp comes from the mare side mostly but you would hope that some of the Satllions attitudde would pass off.

You best start praying for a colt too! At least if the hormones get to much you can geld him!

What breeding is she?
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ok, well I may get shot down but I think you should really consider. I believe only mares with good temperment, conformation and a good performance record should be bred. Yours ticks one(I assume she has good conformation?) of those boxes..
She doesn't jump and she doesn't do flatwork. What are you hoping to breed? Has anyone else ridden her?
Obviously it is your decision in the end.
 
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