Financial contribution for sharer?!

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Would you ask for a financial contribution for a sharer who shared for 2-3 days a week?
If so, how much?

They could do pretty much what they wanted within reason, chance to compete, horse is on Full Livery over winter so no chores there. Ideally 2-3 days a week but always the chance for more if they wanted.

My livery is £20 a week in summer and £50 a week in winter.

I was going to opt for £30 a week overall and then i would pay for shoes/feed everything else?

Is this about right?
 
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3 days a week for 30 pounds plus half the farrier costs. Don't know if you'd get it in the current economic climate. Wouldn't share my horse for any less though, its not worth the hassle.
 

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Got a New Forest a few days ago and i messaged someone looking for a 7 day a week loan offering her, (going back to college in a month and want time to help whoever loans her get settled with her before i'm busy myself) I said 20 pounds and I'd pay farrier and feed etc and she said it was too much!!! She suggested 15 pounds instead :eek: I wouldn't mind but on her advert looking for a loan she also said she'd buy at a reasonable price if anyone was selling something suitable, what when you can't pay 15 pounds a week for everything!? :confused:

I also need a guide on whats an acceptable amount to ask for I think :rolleyes:
 

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Depends on cost of livery, what they can do with the horse, whether they'd be doing chores etc! My sharer has 2 daughters who ride b, they have him 2/3 times a week and get to compete, one of them is at pony club camp at the moment with him! They pay £100 a month and look after him on their days. My livery is £110 a month so what with everything I reckon we pay half his costs each but he's priceless to them, 100% safe and teaching the girls loads. My friend has a sharer for her horse who only pays £40 a month but the horse is green and she's helping school him
 

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Elsiecat that's a full loan and the loaner should pay for absolutely everything including vets bills. Most people loan with the tack, its up to you. Some people I know have taken horses on as a full loan and it only came with a headcollar and lead rope, they had to buy everything else.
 

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Elsiecat that's a full loan and the loaner should pay for absolutely everything including vets bills. Most people loan with the tack, its up to you. Some people I know have taken horses on as a full loan and it only came with a headcollar and lead rope, they had to buy everything else.

I said on the condition she stays on my land as shes a companion for my horse so I won't have that problem (I hope :D). I even agreed I'd do her in the morning and she could do her at nights. Shes really tried taking the p*** hasn't she? *Goes and wipes 'MUG' off her forehead*
 

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I used to share and paid anything from £18-25 per week for 3-4 days a week. They were all on DIY so I did do all the mucking out on 'my' days and the poo picking/tack cleaning etc. I think I was quite lucky as I realise they do cost more than that to keep. I also used to buy or go half with the owners on tack etc that they might need.
 

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i pay £30 per week for my share horse for 2 days a week and shes on full livery. Some people work out the overall cost of their horse (perhaps over the year if yours has different costs winter/summer) and divide it up to work out how much to charge per day.

Good luck finding a sharer :)
 

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I used to charge £10 for first day and then £5 for any additional days and they did chores. If no chores would probably charge more based on cost of livery.
 

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My friend pays half of everything for her share for her daughter. It is also on full livery. Not sure what the full livery cost is, but I think she said it is around £120 a week, plus half shoes, wormers, jabs etc. The pony gets one day off a week, and they each have a weekend day. She is happy paying it.
 

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I usually just lurk but I'm so dumbfounded by this thread that I just had to post.

I have lovely Dales ponies and have been trying to find sharers for years with almost no success. They are on DIY livery as we keep them on our own private yard of just four ponies so I do ask people to do the DIY chores on their days but I've never asked for any financial contribution at all.

Perhaps I should!

Anyone in South Lanarkshire that wants to share a Dales pony for free give me a shout. :)
 

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I said on the condition she stays on my land as shes a companion for my horse so I won't have that problem (I hope :D). I even agreed I'd do her in the morning and she could do her at nights. Shes really tried taking the p*** hasn't she? *Goes and wipes 'MUG' off her forehead*

Getting use of a horse 7 days a week for £15? Where do I sign up? Lol :D
Very cheeky of her to ask you to come down from £20! Seeing as she has full use I would be asking for her to pay at least half of everything, unless she is doing you a favour like schooling/breaking. But I guess if she does work out to be a perfect match for your pony and you're not worried about things financially then at least you have peace of mind/ someone you can trust :)
 

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For me it depends on who the sharer is.

My old sharer paid £100 a month and had 2 days a week did all chores ect but she was relatively novice and wasnt schooling my boy just riding him.

Current sharer has 3 days a week and pays £75 a month plus any extra bedding he need. It works out so well as she is experienced and has owned horses before knows how to school my horse and is actually doing me a favour on the days she rides as i can work more and earn more money and he is doing more as she is more confident than i plus. Plus we knew each other before hand.
 

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Getting use of a horse 7 days a week for £15? Where do I sign up? Lol :D
Very cheeky of her to ask you to come down from £20! Seeing as she has full use I would be asking for her to pay at least half of everything, unless she is doing you a favour like schooling/breaking. But I guess if she does work out to be a perfect match for your pony and you're not worried about things financially then at least you have peace of mind/ someone you can trust :)

Haha the queue starts over there *points*

Nope, ponys fully schooled, ex-childs pony. Only thing she can't do is jump due to an old leg injury. 20 pounds - no feed costs, farrier costs, vet costs, livery fees, etc. I'd have settled for the 20 myself :confused: Find it baffling she was looking for a loan or a horse to buy, if you can't afford 20 pounds a week you can't even afford the livery fees never mind buying it :rolleyes:
Might put my own advert on preloved for about 25 pounds, could do with the financial contribution and its not really worth the hassle for much less :eek:

(also, would I be out of order to tell any future loaner that my mum will probably ride her once a fortnight to go on hacks with me?)
 

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Mine sharer pays £80/month and can ride as little or as much as she wants. No chores and he's on DIY. I give her a lesson about twice a month as well. In reality she rides once, maybe twice a week. She can compete if she wants. Suits me fine :D

She was telling me whenshe started sharing that she used to pay £60/week + bills for a part share of a horse?!
 

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Nugget la poneh if that horse was on full livery its a fair price, she probably had use of the horse on half the days and paid half of total costs. Full livery can be over 100 pounds a week on some yards.

Elsiecat yes its fair 25 pounds a week for a 5 day loan is very reasonable! That gives one day off and one for your mum. As for the other one, she was probably after a 100 pound horse that she could keep on field livery for 15 pounds a week. There are some total idiots out there who don't think of emergencies.

Heather A how come you can't get a sharer if you're offering it for free? Do your ponies have two heads each or something?! :)
 

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I think that sounds reasonable as it is full livery and your horse can compete, I have had shares for hacking at 12-15 a week but either live out or cheap diy. I would have paid more to compete although once it gets near 100 a month I'd rather have my own as being the sharer can be as much of a hassle as the owner! Have opted to get my own on grass now :)
 

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I didn't charge my sharer anything as i was sharing due to working commitments which meant i couldn't get down there at nights at a regular time so my sharer did mon to fri evenings and she could ride as many times as she wanted that week.
No real chores as i had mucked out, made feeds, haynets etc etc in the mornings so it just left her with rugs, a skip out, hang a hay net or turnout in the summer.
We have an indoor, outdoor arena, off road hacking round fields, a farm ride with jumps across the road and gallops about half a mile hack away so she has plenty of options.
I didn't ask for money because i wasn't doing it for the money...my horse i pay for it.
I would rather have a good reliable person than someone who gives me £30 for a joy ride 3 times a week.
 

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When i was p/loaning baby lilly, i paid £80 a month, rode 3 times a week, mucked out both weekend days and paid for a schooling lesson for her each week, but she was very green and i was adding to her education, so i think the owner saw it as a useful deal, oh and i bought a saddle and bridle for her as well.
 

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Haha the queue starts over there *points*

Nope, ponys fully schooled, ex-childs pony. Only thing she can't do is jump due to an old leg injury. 20 pounds - no feed costs, farrier costs, vet costs, livery fees, etc. I'd have settled for the 20 myself :confused: Find it baffling she was looking for a loan or a horse to buy, if you can't afford 20 pounds a week you can't even afford the livery fees never mind buying it :rolleyes:
Might put my own advert on preloved for about 25 pounds, could do with the financial contribution and its not really worth the hassle for much less :eek:

(also, would I be out of order to tell any future loaner that my mum will probably ride her once a fortnight to go on hacks with me?)

*Ques patiently*:p

No, of course not! At £25 she is still a bargain when you think most people that have full use of a horse own or full loan so have to pay for everything (especially as she is on the equivalent of part livery if you do mornings). Remeber that she is still your pony so you have the final say on everything even if someone else is looking after her for you :)
 

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*Ques patiently*:p

No, of course not! At £25 she is still a bargain when you think most people that have full use of a horse own or full loan so have to pay for everything (especially as she is on the equivalent of part livery if you do mornings). Remeber that she is still your pony so you have the final say on everything even if someone else is looking after her for you :)

Might put an advert on preloved, but I feel nasty on the young girl :eek: I asked her to ring me and she said between her and her family they had no credit or house phone, I got the feeling I might even be holding my breath for 15 pounds a week.. *goes off to break more childrens hearts:rolleyes:*
 

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Previous sharers have paid £50 a month for 2/3 days a week. Have been lucky that money has been the last consideration after time really hence it being very low.
 

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It's usually the cost of livery, shoes & feed worked out to a daily rate, eg if it costs £70 a week, sharer pays £10 a day. It's usually fair because a yard with better facilities costs more than a plain field. Only when its expensive full livery does it get tricky. And while there may be some boundaries & rules in place, sharer basically has horse as their own that day, including jobs.
I had a teen sharer when daughter was 1 for a year, who I didn't charge, although she paid entry fees & bought carrots. Suited me cos working ft as a single mum with no support network, it freed up time. Deal was that in an emergency, eg unwell baby, she'd step in to do all work. It kept pony fit & she also loves work & jumping. And meant my time at the yard was pleasureable rather than a mad dash 2x a day, 7 days a week. If I wasn't riding on my days I would text so she could. And she would watch sleeping baby while I rode in the paddock in exchange for a lesson. From her pov, she was a dedicated & lovely girl who after riding & loaning all her life, had been reduced to hanging about her mates pony & very rare lessons due to family financial issues. So she got a nice 14.2 schoolmistress she could do anything with for free, I got free assisted livery. And I also got a kick from knowing I'd made a kid very happy. It was also great seeing the faces of some horrid girls who'd started calling her a scrubber, poor, tramp etc when her loan pony went back. As the 'poor kid' ended up with a much better pony than they could hope to have & beat them hands down at everything. Luckily after a year situation changed & she was bought her own, not so lucky for me!
 

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I usually just lurk but I'm so dumbfounded by this thread that I just had to post.

I have lovely Dales ponies and have been trying to find sharers for years with almost no success. They are on DIY livery as we keep them on our own private yard of just four ponies so I do ask people to do the DIY chores on their days but I've never asked for any financial contribution at all.

Perhaps I should!

Anyone in South Lanarkshire that wants to share a Dales pony for free give me a shout. :)

Shame you're not closer to me - I have a lovely young rider who's desperate for a pony just to spend time with and ride a bit!

I'm in the process of seeing if a horse is suitable for me at the minute, he's in Ayr and his owner has just moved to Edinburgh and is bringing him through. She's basically got no time, and asked if I wanted a loan or a share. I said financially at the minute a share. She said - ok, but if I was super busy at work for periods of time would you basically take him on all the time for the same amount of money to help me out? I said yes and then said equally (as she is a school teacher) If you break up for holidays and want him all to yourself for a week or so then I'm not going to go anywhere, he is your horse!

He's going on grass livery I think + box if I want it.. think I'm going to pay for the box extra (so about £5 a week) plus any straw etc he needs when he's in (say another £5 a week) plus a share of his shoes.

He's been beautifully schooled, is 8 years old and a dressage superstar seemingly. Although the owner does need some money - for her it's the help whilst she gets settled etc which is the biggest thing. And I get to compete!
 

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I charge £20 per week for 2-3 days plus extra days if it works out like that. She also has to do the mucking out on her days and poo picking / water.
 
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