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1stclassalan

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So what about North Korea then?

Aren't any of you just a little concerned that these guys might lob a missile somewhere soon? After all one of them can be readied in 45 minutes and could carry a NUCLEAR DEVICE :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
I can't help but sit open mouthed when I read about North Korea, the whole regime there seems so unbelievable :eek:
 
Hes a Grade A parionoid nutter!

I just hope there isn't an equally mad genius scientist at the back of him building the weapons.

Brings to mind Pinky and the Brain! If you made a movie about this, no one would watch it for being to unrealistic.
 
1stclassalan said:
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Yes, and I'll admit that I considered the start of a thread on the very same subject.

There are so many opposing arguments, all with a degree of value, that I honestly think that there's only one solution, when diplomacy fails. If the threat of a strike becomes imminent, and there will be sufficient spy net-ware in place to give sufficient warning, then every single key target in North Korea should be Nuked. I don't mean smart bombs, I mean annihilation. I realise that this will include possibly millions of innocent lives, but if there's a trade off with America and North Korea, throwing nuclear weaponry at each other, and China getting a few for good measure, then there will be a world war from which we may never recover.

If that lunatic with the haircut gets to release just one nuclear weapon, then we are in for Armageddon. He needs to be humanely destroyed.

The fact that America has and still does antagonise many of those countries which are now acquiring weaponry of devastating ability, is obvious, but when you deal with the deranged, then reason is the last valued argument, before annihilation.

Concerned? Without question.

Alec.
 
I am actually quite scared, in a not sleeping very well and thinking about it a lot kind of way.

My biggest fear is that we/USA have totally underestimated the fruitloop. There seems to be an awful lot of 'oh he can't do that yet' going around but what if he could?
 
Cedars said:
I am actually quite scared, in a not sleeping very well and thinking about it a lot kind of way.
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Well don't lose too much Cedars. Plenty of other stuff closer to home to seriously worry us!

My biggest fear is that we/USA have totally underestimated the fruitloop. There seems to be an awful lot of 'oh he can't do that yet' going around but what if he could?
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He is actually far more dangerous through the very mean we are communicating - the latest two dangerous cyber attacks on the West have originated in North Korea and this is getting right up a few noses - hence the bigging up of a quite insignificant threat - people are always more impressed by things that go bang!

We, ( the West ) must have a good handle on Haircut's nuclear programme - every test is monitored, his skies spied on - if there was any attempt to place fissile material on a rocket - we'd probably destroy it on the launch pad but it would definately be brought down while in flight. And merely by doing so he would instantly be an international priah on a higher scale than he is already - and China would invade - they already regard the country as a sort of miscreant child and there's only so much the naught step will do.

They probably have less than ten credible small weapons of questionable reliability and the same of rockets. China, America and us have enough 20megaton munitions to destroy all civilization many times over which would all work at about 98.9% reliability.

The present visit by Secretary Kerry to China is a sign of how things are - not Mr Obama and in the smaller plane if you notice.
 
I think it's more about internal posturing for a new regime than anything else. However he should remember what happened to S Hussein when he tried to fool th West into thinking he had WMD....and they believed him. A very silly game they are playing.
 
Delicious_D said:
I wasnt around for the cuban missle crisis but from what my family say, North Korea is a much more credible and far too real thread. The leader is dangerous but depending on whether we can get china to dissuade him, do we have any chance of doing so?
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My GODFATHERS! What planet was you family on???

America had suddenly woken up to the fact that Fidel Castro had allowed Russia to house missiles in Cuba - 90 miles off the coast of the eastern United States - tantamount to an aggressive act and certainly a provocative one.

Then a Russian ship was spotted with a further cargo of missiles on board and..... godknows what else - the Americans issued an ultimatim saying to Komrade General Secretary Kruschev - "turn that ship around or we will sink it." Earlier in the year, Kruschev had attended the United Nations meeting which decended into a ruckas - he took his shoe off and beat the table with it to gain attention - "Russia will be HEARD! We are a peaceable country but if you attack us - WE WILL BURY YOU!

They had ( and still do have) thousands of intercontinental rockets armed with multiple warheads all producing 20megatons and one model of over 70megatons - they all worked - in fact, their rockets worked better than the American ones back then.

The U.S. fleet made contact ...... and the entire world held it's breath. I can remember thinking where the best place to be was - not to survive but for a guaranteed quick death - I'd seen some photos from Nagasaki and didn't want any of that!

So your family is more afraid of this jumped up North Korean t**t with a severe haircut - than the two most powerful forces the world has ever seen facing each other off!!!


What with the ground swell of Communist feeling in this country, the upsurge in the Ban the Bomb movement, and the seeming impregnability of the Iron Curtain - I was convinced they would win - not a defeatist attitude but a dash of realism - I think that some of this is coming out in the stinging sensation surrounding Margaret Thatcher's death & funeral.

So here's the old enemy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHoZdQNwsdU

some of the old boys are singing the old words too!
 
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Delicious_D said:
No alan, please dont insult my family. I think you become to sensationalised about things at time. There are worse things closer to home.
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Me - sensationalised? Moi?

No insults intended - it was after all you who posted their opinions - not me.

I'll admit that there are things closer to home to worry about than North Korea - but that was my point - the Cuban Missile Crissis - stopped the flipping world for a while!

The Americans went to Def Con 4 - one step below actual nuclear war.

Everywhere the West faced the Russians - they had overwhelming forces opposing us - in Germany, we Brits had four divisions - on the opposite side of the River Rhine, there were 67 - half of them in amphious tanks.

We would have nuked the lot of them while they were still in their bases - and cooked our blokes too.That's how crazy those days were.
 
This is all about the new leader and his family consolidating their authority over the military. It will end with them firing some rockets and possibly a nuclear test. He can then claim he has defeated the West. Its like watching Team America World Police.
 
Superhot said:
Did Nostradamus say that the yellows would destroy the world???? Can't remember fully, must go and investigate...
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Ah.... he was infatuated with battles between the red and the black - but of course in a world that was dominated by the Church ( red for Cardinals ) and the Law ( Advocates wore black caps) you can see where he was coming from. Very little prediction there - just a dreamy representation of his present but if you took hypnotic herbs and sat staring into a bowl of water with your feet in it for hours - you's probably talk droppings too!
 
1stclassalan said:
You just about have there Cedars - that's why Mr Terry has been doing his bit of shuttle diplomacy.
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I listened the other morning to the former Ambassador to Northern Korea (I think it was), and it was his belief that China rather feared their neighbour, because they had little by way of suitable armament to stand up to Haircut, should he decide to lob one in their direction.

I wonder what America would think, if Korea played war games, in or near their waters, as the Americans have, within sight of Korea.

I actually think that Kim Jim what's-is-face, is simply posturing, and acting the fool. If he actually means what he says, then he's dead, along with the rest of his countrymen. No one's that stupid, surely.

Alec.
 
Alec Swan said:
I listened the other morning to the former Ambassador to Northern Korea (I think it was), and it was his belief that China rather feared their neighbour, because they had little by way of suitable armament to stand up to Haircut, should he decide to lob one in their direction.

I wonder what America would think, if Korea played war games, in or near their waters, as the Americans have, within sight of Korea.

I actually think that Kim Jim what's-is-face, is simply posturing, and acting the fool. If he actually means what he says, then he's dead, along with the rest of his countrymen. No one's that stupid, surely.

Alec.
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But he won't be will he Alec? He believes he is a God therefore he can't be killed as he will just be alive in paradise, or wherever else he thinks he might be. Further to that he doesn't give a ......... for his fellow countrymen/women anyway so that part of the logic won't cut any ice with him either.

While I am not naive enough to think that a phone call from Mr Obama would actually make a difference I can't think that it would do any harm either. I'm guessing his number is available on 118???????

Dangerous situation for everyone. I hope it is peacefully resolved.
 
JackAT said:
Anyone watching the Panorama on BBC1 right now, "North Korea Undercover"?

Interesting, and so far predictable.
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I watched it. I want to say that the only way forward is by negotiation, but I suspect that I'd be wrong. The problem is that when ever the West has interfered, removed a despot, and replaced him, then history shows that matters become ever more grave.

Whenever I watch such reports, and I think that I have the gall to complain about my lot, then I feel ashamed. OK, so things could be better here, but we live simple, supported and sterile lives, by comparison.

Alec.
 
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