becksten
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Hi all!!! I have been trying to teach my dressage cob flying changes. But he has No idea of what im asking!?!? Is their anything else i could do, except for over exaggerate my position? (as im trying that atm) Thankyou!!!
Flying changes.
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jumpthemoon
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Try working on a figure of 8, come back to trot across the diagonal then ask for canter again on the other lead. Reduce the amount of trot strides until he gets the idea
Also, make sure your canter aids are correct and that he responds to them properly for canter in general
Also, make sure your canter aids are correct and that he responds to them properly for canter in general
becksten
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ok thanks, he is very quick at responding!
sallythomas
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This makes sence in my head but i prob cannot explain it on paper!
Try going across the diagonal in the school in trot and pushing his quarters over with your new out side leg almost so he is doing quarters in and then when you hit the track ask for inside bend and release the leg pressure. When he does it perfectly in trot ask in canter and he should respond to the outside leg pressure by changing.
Good luck!
Try going across the diagonal in the school in trot and pushing his quarters over with your new out side leg almost so he is doing quarters in and then when you hit the track ask for inside bend and release the leg pressure. When he does it perfectly in trot ask in canter and he should respond to the outside leg pressure by changing.
Good luck!
jumpthemoon
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Ok
Make sure he's not anticipating your aids as well, and that he waits to be asked properly - as if he is bombing off at the slightest touch, he may have more of his own agenda on his mind than yours, if you see what I mean! Make sure you get him thinking
miller
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I taught after/from half pass. Horse needs to be very responsive to correct strike offs at any place in the school onto either true or counter canter
Half pass back to track (ideally in corner) and then very exaggerated change of leg aids whilst is the suspension part of the canter stride to ask for change. My lad tbh picked it up ver yquickl;y so I'm not much help on problems.
Personally I'd rather not use canter/walk/canter with decreasing amounts of walk as I find you get a very 'proppy' upright change rather than a forward one - last thing I want to risk with my lad as he uses any excuse not to go forwards
Half pass back to track (ideally in corner) and then very exaggerated change of leg aids whilst is the suspension part of the canter stride to ask for change. My lad tbh picked it up ver yquickl;y so I'm not much help on problems.
Personally I'd rather not use canter/walk/canter with decreasing amounts of walk as I find you get a very 'proppy' upright change rather than a forward one - last thing I want to risk with my lad as he uses any excuse not to go forwards
becksten
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Ok thankyou all!!!! Better get practicing!!!!
GTs
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Spurs - long ones!!!!
Partoow
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Number one dont throw your weight about!!!
Changes have to come out of a good quality canter so first of all make sure you are able to ride a balanced counter canter, simple changes and transitions within the pace.
Staightness and the control of the shoulders is vital as is your understanding of the 'aids'. This may make you say ' of coarse i know how to ask for canter ' but are you asking using a complete aid sequence?
Cobs quite often have rhythm and balance problems in the canter so first things first test out the things above so that you truely know you have his shoulders , and hence his hind legs .
I then teach the changes weak canter to strong as the horse will more readily go from his weak side to his strong . For most horses this is left to right. one of the best ways is out of half pass as this gets you, the rider pushing the outside leg [ this is important as this will become your new inside leg and therefore needs activating in preparation for the change. It also helps 'focus the shoulders down a corridor and therefore the hindlegs carrying weight evenly.] Then to get the change you half halt on the outside rein keep the shoulders between the two reins release the outside leg and move it to the on the girth position push the new outside hip forward and tap with the new inside leg. I count using one... activate outsidehind, two ... half halt outside shoulder, Three...tap,move hips.
This can also be done on a serpentine, but you have to be extra careful you dont just rush through and loose balance. Remember the same rhythm in and the same rhythm out of the change.
Changes have to come out of a good quality canter so first of all make sure you are able to ride a balanced counter canter, simple changes and transitions within the pace.
Staightness and the control of the shoulders is vital as is your understanding of the 'aids'. This may make you say ' of coarse i know how to ask for canter ' but are you asking using a complete aid sequence?
Cobs quite often have rhythm and balance problems in the canter so first things first test out the things above so that you truely know you have his shoulders , and hence his hind legs .
I then teach the changes weak canter to strong as the horse will more readily go from his weak side to his strong . For most horses this is left to right. one of the best ways is out of half pass as this gets you, the rider pushing the outside leg [ this is important as this will become your new inside leg and therefore needs activating in preparation for the change. It also helps 'focus the shoulders down a corridor and therefore the hindlegs carrying weight evenly.] Then to get the change you half halt on the outside rein keep the shoulders between the two reins release the outside leg and move it to the on the girth position push the new outside hip forward and tap with the new inside leg. I count using one... activate outsidehind, two ... half halt outside shoulder, Three...tap,move hips.
This can also be done on a serpentine, but you have to be extra careful you dont just rush through and loose balance. Remember the same rhythm in and the same rhythm out of the change.
kerilli
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put a pole at an angle off the track at the end of a long diagonal, so it's just where he'd want to change as you come across the diag in true canter. do that, let the pole get in the way, give new canter aid in midair as he lifts over the pole. don't throw your weight about, just change the bend and swing your legs. he'll get the idea. the pole helps give him a bit of elevation = more time to change legs, till he gets the hang of it.