Foals - swinging?

[dunc_n_toby]

not sure where to post this but when do people swing thier foals i.e when they're a few days old or a year old etc??

 

[S_N]

?????SWING??????? Eh?????

 

[rema]

Could you please clarify what you mean by Swing???.

 

[S_N]

LOL Shell, I'm having images of trying to pick H up by his front fetlocks and swinging him round my head

 

[amandaco]

lol erm no idea what you mean!lol.swing?sling?never done either with B yet!LOL

 

[dunc_n_toby]

throw?

 

[rema]

Throw where????

 

[dunc_n_toby]

maybe I speak a different language or it's not common practise anymore?
when I was a bearn the farmer used to 'throw/swing' his foals to the ground, similar to the way cow boys do.

 

[PapaFrita]

But what for?

When I had my foals, the only one getting that sort of treatment was me!!

 

[lennysmith]

Erm Denver might be a randy little sod but he's FAR too young to know about things like swinging!!

 

[Sarah1]

PMSL

 

[rema]

No i have never heard that before.I know farmers sometimes "swing" lambs or calves upside down to clear the mucus from there lungs after being born.

 

[dunc_n_toby]

PMSL @josiejo.

So do people still pillar rein youngsters?
Tie them up from either side of thier head to a solid object?

 

[S_N]

OH My goodness me - I've never come across that in this country!! Pillar tying hmmmm is that not considered to be dangerous now? Though I do understand the principle and it certainly DOES teach a horse that pulling back is futile!

 

[S_N]

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Erm Denver might be a randy little sod but he's FAR too young to know about things like swinging!!

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FOCLMFAO!!!!!!

 

[Christmas_Kate]

I HAD to read this, I was intruiged, I had visions of rude things going on...
anyway, never heard of either, and i should imagine if you did so you would probably get done for cruelty....

 

[dunc_n_toby]

Well whilst out hunting last season I definately spoke to a girl who'd swung her foal whilst on it's mother. . . . just assumed it was normal practise?

 

[Super_Kat]

Why on earth would you want to 'swing' or throw you foal to the floor in the first place

 

[dunc_n_toby]

duno thats why I asked. . . . I'm hoping to breed my first foalie so needed to know.

 

[Enfys]

I am probably wrong here, but I thought swinging a horse referred to tying or looping a long rope around a solid post and letting the horse pull against the pole rather than the handler who is holding the loose end of the rope.

I'm sure someone will correct me.

 

[LauraBR]

I thought swinging a foal was tying them up to something solid to teach them to respect being tied to something? Not throwing them to the ground?

My practical foal knowledge is limited to say the least though...

 

[tinker512]

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duno thats why I asked. . . . I'm hoping to breed my first foalie so needed to know.

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...well I think you will need to know alot more!!!

 

[dunc_n_toby]

Pillar reining to me enfys yes thats it!
So am I bein Fick??? pillar reining/swinging are the same?

 

[dunc_n_toby]

OUCH!!!! NO NEED FOR THAT, who are you to judge my equestrian knowledge?

I can see this thread drifting off on a tangent. . .

 

[S_N]

Ahhhh now that does kind of make sense and if that's the case, then yes I have kind of done that with H - only a couple of times and he was like

"hhhhhmmmmmm I can't move much..... So I won't"

Good pony is H

 

[Louise2005]

Just before I got my foalie, YO asked me if he'd been swung and I said 'has he been what?

' as you do lol, never heard of it before. And she said it meant like halter-broken I think. I didn't really understand, maybe she meant the tying up thing

Lou.x

 

[mariond]

Yes Enfys is right. When we sold some youngsters to a couple from Yorkshire he asked me if they had been swung ???? I had to ask what it was and he said it was tying a horse to a solid post etc with 2 headcollars to teach it to tie and not pull when led. I don't think my nerved could stand doing that to a youngster !

 

[Vey]

Swinging is tying to a solid object - and if it works it works - unfortunately sometimes it does not work and the foal or yearling will seriously damage its back or neck. It depends if you see a foal as something expendable you can take a risk with, or as something valuable you would rather teach the same thing by safe methods. I take the latter view, and teach the youngster how to release pressure by moving forward first, before teaching tying up.

 

[Gingernags]

Its horrible and old fashioned and I'd never, ever do that to a youngster.

You use the strongest halter you can find, one that won't snap, and very stout rope, and tie them to something solid, post or tree, and let them fight being tied up.

Basically you hope the foal will learn to stand still before it breaks its neck/leg as the rope and the post aren't intended to give at all.

A book I've seen goes one step further and encourages you to "sack" the poor thing out. In other words flap a sack around MAKING the foal/horse panick and pull back, to get it used to being tied when things are scary.

Wrong wrong wrong.

 

[Alibear]

I know about dropping foals/yearlings basically when they start using you as a climbing frame as you lead them you head for a soft surfce and lean back and drop them to the floor .

Definitly an "older" horseman trik but has/had it's merits.