Foot and Mouth. How honest are the media being?

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To the best of my knowledge, the foot and mouth outbreak is the result of a lack in biosecurity from the Pirbright vet labs. I know of the situation quite well as i am good friends with a virologist who works there!!

My OH has suggested that the outbreak was probably caused by meat being illegally transported into army bases from Argentina or other locations of South America, bringing the virus along with it. I know that the epidemic in 2001 was put down to the transportation of meat, perhaps in the above manner, but have not heard anything suggesting this is the case again. I've told him he's a nutter and most likely wrong.

Does anyone think the government would hide something like this? I don't see whay they would. Surely the embarrassment and damages are going to far exceed this with the HSE admitting a fault in the government vet research labs, which is what's clearly on the cards.

What do people think about this? Do you think there is any chance of an alternative story? Bearing in mind the strain of the virus was last found in the 60's and has since been used for animal vaccine testing in labs such as the pirbright one and to the best of the knowledge of those i have spoken to, it has not been beyond these bio-secure boundaries (if there is such a term!!)

I'm confused as to why someone would suggest the british army as a culprit of illegally transporting meat when evidence to the contrary is so clear!!
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Not so sure she is daft, I for one dont believe this government care one joit about our farmers, sure they would be quiet happy to see a concrete jungle across the UK rather then fields. Oh they may relent to a few for the walkers/ramblers!
 

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The government released FMD just like they did in 2001, there is so much evidence. They don't want us farmers anymore.

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Completely agree I'm afraid to say
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Am I really that naive then I wonder...............
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Can't imagine any government actually wanting to ruin its own rural economy.
 

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Some of the things that this government do are really stupid to the average everyday person and I agree it seems like they don't want such things as farming...when they keep pushing more houses to be built and allow supermarkets to profit from produce whilst the farmer breaks even if they are lucky. I don't think it is done intentionally as that would not make sense but politics and MONEY do dictate such decisions being made in the first place. We are a nation driven by money and greed and the government are at the heart of that!
A farmer down the road from me has a fantastic herd of Jersey cattle and every day the milk tanker comes to collect there special milk...but because of demands and money the milk gets mixed into the same tanker as all other milk...crazy! It makes me so mad that such specialist products are all bulked together like that, it is criminal. Yes, perhaps the farmer should convert his premises into a creamery and make butter and ice cream products...but how the hell does he do that when he actually breaks even financially each year from this living!!! Madness!
Going back to the F&M...I think yes...something has happened that should not have at that vet labs.
 

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Claire, kibob and pottamus...

Do you really think that if the government had released the virus as an attempt to transorm the UK and be rid of farming all together that they firstly would have released it right on the door step of a government run vet laboratory (for goodness sake people, i don't think so) and secondly face their systems with millions if not billions of pounds of liquidated damages whist the labs cannot be used for testing????? I know there is a certain irony about the situation but come on!! I can think of so many ways for the government to enforce that, before they decided to hugely insult one of their own testing laboratories, thus effectively making themselves look like idiots!!!!!!

Infact why would they fund animal vaccine testing in the first place? Your statement is contradictory.

Please don't get me wrong about this - i grew up in the next village to Wanborough where the first case was found, many people i know work for the vet lab and my heart genuinely goes out to the poor farmers who have lost or fear losing their livestock. I realise the error was a pretty hearty error indeed and it will take its toll on everyone, but please people, you can't seriously suggest that it was intentional???
 

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Mighty_Blighty...I don't think my post mentioned anything about me thinking it was intentional...you have read that wrong! As I said...the government are silly in many of their decisions but as I said in my post...I don't think it was intentionally done at all! I never said that...
I don't for one minute think anyone would intentionally do this...but I do think that if this has come from the lab then something un-toward has happened...i.e someone has been slack or not followed correct procedure on something...but not intentional...no!
 

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Sorry...oops, got a bit passionate there!!! I misread your post and chucked you into the pot with the other two!!

Definitely agree something untoward happened and it's quite shocking really that a government lab can't contain something so infectious. Some serious malconduct methinks...

By the way, i totally agree about the local pruducts and how fit in with the larger scale economy. I try to support this by buying at least some of my food each week from the local farm shop and farmers markets, including my meat. It's a crying shame that everything is going the same way. you're right i think - demands and money, all it is. It's totally in the hands of the government though - however nice it is to feel like we're being supportive, our impact in maintaining things probably does nothing. How sad!! Can hope though
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It's totally in the hands of the government though

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Not really. It's in our hands. The government can't shut down all the supermarkets (well they could, but there goes the free market economy) - only we can do that by not going to them, demanding home grown specialist products and being prepared to pay a high price. We can't blame the supermarkets either, they're just responding to what we say we want.
 
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