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Boulty

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Sooo am tentatively looking for a new horse. We all know my track record of horses with health issues isn’t the best so I’m inviting you all to save me from myself and act as my voice of reason (& possibly kick up the arse which is probably what I needed earlier this week)

Fair warning that I am prone to doing utterly stupid things on a whim so may reject several that tick everything on paper & then go off chasing something that’s everything I say I DON’T want 🙈. Please don’t be mad if I do this

14.2-15.3

4-12 yrs (a year or so either side potentially ok if everything else fits… don’t want a total baby as I’ve spent so long waiting to get going that I don’t really want to wait for years)

Must be a gelding due to yard preference (& mine tbh although I’d consider a mare if YO wasn’t so adamant she doesn’t want another on the yard)

Budget about £5k (some wiggle room for the right horse… yes I know it’s not very big in today’s market but spending much more makes me feel a bit sick & that’s already double what I’ve ever spent before… also sorta hoping to benefit from end of Summer hols / Winter approaching)

Probably native type / native cross as like a bit of a pony brain but open to other suggestions. (Mostly been looking at ads for Welsh Ds whilst casually browsing and kinda expecting that’s probably what I’ll end up with but open to other ideas) Ideally not full on heavy feather due to potential issues it causes.

No greys or full TBs please. I’m about 11 1/2 stone so needs enough chunk to cart my fat arse around

Ideally backed and able to WTC even if in a green, manner. (Don’t mind if canter doesn’t go around corners / doesn’t do so very well yet) Ability not to trip over own feet & have some idea of where own body is in space desirable. May consider unbacked if right horse at right price.

Must be able to be turned out with others in mixed herd. Will be living out on a track system year round so probably not something that has to be surgically removed from stable in bad weather!

Ideally not terrified of traffic as don’t think location would be fair if it is. (Right next to M1)

Barefoot (& sound & happy like this) preferred but may consider shod in front (would be removing them so would prefer feet not to be a complete car crash as this is supposed to be a horse to have fun with not a rehab project)

Don’t mind if green in school (I know I can’t afford anything that isn’t), don’t mind if groundwork needs work, don’t mind if a pain to catch , quirky ok if not dangerous.

Don’t need a world beater, probably won’t ever ask it to jump more than about 80cm but would like to be talented enough to not struggle with & to hopefully enjoy doing a bit of TREC & WE (don’t want to be putting a square peg in a round hole) but day to day life would probably mainly be lots of hacking (with frequent pub trips and snack stops) with schooling and groundwork including stupid obstacle courses thrown in.
 
Sooo am tentatively looking for a new horse. We all know my track record of horses with health issues isn’t the best so I’m inviting you all to save me from myself and act as my voice of reason (& possibly kick up the arse which is probably what I needed earlier this week)

Fair warning that I am prone to doing utterly stupid things on a whim so may reject several that tick everything on paper & then go off chasing something that’s everything I say I DON’T want 🙈. Please don’t be mad if I do this

14.2-15.3

4-12 yrs (a year or so either side potentially ok if everything else fits… don’t want a total baby as I’ve spent so long waiting to get going that I don’t really want to wait for years)

Must be a gelding due to yard preference (& mine tbh although I’d consider a mare if YO wasn’t so adamant she doesn’t want another on the yard)

Budget about £5k (some wiggle room for the right horse… yes I know it’s not very big in today’s market but spending much more makes me feel a bit sick & that’s already double what I’ve ever spent before… also sorta hoping to benefit from end of Summer hols / Winter approaching)

Probably native type / native cross as like a bit of a pony brain but open to other suggestions. (Mostly been looking at ads for Welsh Ds whilst casually browsing and kinda expecting that’s probably what I’ll end up with but open to other ideas) Ideally not full on heavy feather due to potential issues it causes.

No greys or full TBs please. I’m about 11 1/2 stone so needs enough chunk to cart my fat arse around

Ideally backed and able to WTC even if in a green, manner. (Don’t mind if canter doesn’t go around corners / doesn’t do so very well yet) Ability not to trip over own feet & have some idea of where own body is in space desirable. May consider unbacked if right horse at right price.

Must be able to be turned out with others in mixed herd. Will be living out on a track system year round so probably not something that has to be surgically removed from stable in bad weather!

Ideally not terrified of traffic as don’t think location would be fair if it is. (Right next to M1)

Barefoot (& sound & happy like this) preferred but may consider shod in front (would be removing them so would prefer feet not to be a complete car crash as this is supposed to be a horse to have fun with not a rehab project)

Don’t mind if green in school (I know I can’t afford anything that isn’t), don’t mind if groundwork needs work, don’t mind if a pain to catch , quirky ok if not dangerous.

Don’t need a world beater, probably won’t ever ask it to jump more than about 80cm but would like to be talented enough to not struggle with & to hopefully enjoy doing a bit of TREC & WE (don’t want to be putting a square peg in a round hole) but day to day life would probably mainly be lots of hacking (with frequent pub trips and snack stops) with schooling and groundwork including stupid obstacle courses thrown in.
Horsequest: Abergavenny Heulwen (female), plenty of others,
Horsemart: a useful couple of Sec D geldings, 15 - 15.2hh
Enjoy!
 
If you want stupid things on a whim may I draw your attention to the Brecon sales thread 😜

What location?

If you want stupid things on a whim may I draw your attention to the Brecon sales thread 😜

What location?


Accidentally pressed the button twice & it’s being silly about being deleted… I have seen & admired the Brecon thread. I am probably not the kind of person who should be let loose at a sales lest I feel sorry for something & come away with something inappropriate (& I don’t want to buy unseen).

I’m West Yorks but willing to travel anywhere that doesn’t involve a ferry or a flight within reason if I like something enough, especially if seller got a good rep or if I’m going off personal recommendation. (I took a train to the Highlands to go & look at a load of cute youngsters)

The coloured is sweet looking but probably don’t like enough to drive 4hrs to see when seller states there shall be no videos or further photos available. (Would probably be more inclined if was more local)
 

 
381767 on horse quest looks interesting 😆
There’s something about his posture that I’m not keen on that I can’t articulate although photo 2 is not a great photo. (TBF both look like on a slope & I also wonder why taken on grass rather than concrete or other flat, level surface). Also not a fan of how his canter looks.
 

The Welsh seems to have been for sale for a while (think I’ve seen him on & off for the last month when idly browsing) & looks quite hard work on video posted & I’m a bit cautious now of anything more established with reluctance to move forward. Another that if he was closer I’d probably have a look but not enough drawing me to him to drive for 3 hours.

Other is way bigger than I’m looking for sadly.
 

Gosh the Palomino is cheap!!! That would set my alarm bells ringing full stop!
 
Would you consider a fell pony (bit under your 14.2) Helmside fells has some larger 4yo geldings at the mo I think.
 
https://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/381054 and from the same home https://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/381044 - they're very dark grey but otherwise fit the bill 😁
They’re being ridden in the same tack, and unless my eyes deceive me, without saddlepads. Make of that what you will. (I don’t think you’re at fault for posting the ads, it’s a genuine mistake to make sometimes).



Also the way he was struggling to canter made me wince, definitely something fishy there. Also, the trotting seemed off to me, don’t know how. Also looks like EMS is an issue, which is fine with the correct facilities, but definitely not easy. I also wonder if lami could be an explanation for the interesting movement.
 
They’re being ridden in the same tack, and unless my eyes deceive me, without saddlepads. Make of that what you will. (I don’t think you’re at fault for posting the ads, it’s a genuine mistake to make sometimes).
Just curious why that worries you? They're from the same home so presumably someone that bought them with the intention of backing and selling them, so the use of the same tack without a pad on similar shape/size/bred horses doesn't scream problems to me. If you liked one you'd have it vetted to check for issues and buy it its own tack when you got it home.
 
Just curious why that worries you? They're from the same home so presumably someone that bought them with the intention of backing and selling them, so the use of the same tack without a pad on similar shape/size/bred horses doesn't scream problems to me. If you liked one you'd have it vetted to check for issues and buy it its own tack when you got it home.
No two horses are exactly the same shape, I’d at least expect them to be using shims/prolite pads (which are relatively cheap). Or possibly be using one of those treeless ones that adapts to a horses’ shape within a range. Obviously, I’m not a saddler, but it just seems off to me. Not using a saddle pad when riding may cause rubs and discomfort.

All of the above speaks volumes about their attitude to horses comfort.

It’d make me wary of how they’d been backed/handled overall. Fine if you have the experience and time to put in, but not everyone does (myself included). I’d also be fastidiously googling the postcode and looking for “interesting” caravan sites, as well. Again, not always a bad thing depending on time/experience as a buyer.

That’s just how I interpret the pics from having looked relatively recently.
 
No two horses are exactly the same shape, I’d at least expect them to be using shims/prolite pads (which are relatively cheap). Or possibly be using one of those treeless ones that adapts to a horses’ shape within a range.

I don't know a single producer or dealer who uses made to measure tack on each horse. It's extremely common to share tack across horses in commercial set ups and is nothing to set alarm bells off about. Most people get a made to measure saddle as soon as the horse is home.

I think @Birker2020 phoned up about this big chestnut https://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/381331 months ago and realised something there was something off about the story.
 
Will have a look at some of these a bit later (although not currently willing to overlook greyness of Connies & implication that they’ve probs just had some tack chucked on for photos)

Thoughts? https://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/382021

More thoughts?


I don't know your experience level or ability but this sounds like the sort of pony who would either be amazing or utterly terrifying depending on your ability and perception of things! They've been very clear that he needs a very good, confident rider - if you think that's you then crack on! You might get a bargain!
 
Will have a look at some of these a bit later (although not currently willing to overlook greyness of Connies & implication that they’ve probs just had some tack chucked on for photos)

Thoughts? https://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/382021

More thoughts?


Both look nice, and worth consideration I think, particularly as you seem aware of Welsh quirks.

I had a Welsh D who was very similar to the 1st one in terms of breeding and he definitely needed confidence. He was a more showy horse who wasn’t as practical in day-to-day ridden life (ie. Hacking). I think as long as you’re aware of that, definitely consider it.
 
I don't know a single producer or dealer who uses made to measure tack on each horse. It's extremely common to share tack across horses in commercial set ups and is nothing to set alarm bells off about. Most people get a made to measure saddle as soon as the horse is home.

I think @Birker2020 phoned up about this big chestnut https://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/381331 months ago and realised something there was something off about the story.

I don’t expect made-to-measure, I do, however, expect a saddlepad/numnah as a minimum when ridden. I’d understand if they were lunging or just showing that the horse can have a saddle on its back.

Most dealers tend to have a numnah they can chuck on any horse, rings alarm bells when someone can’t be bothered with something that basic.

ETA: just realised it’s derailing the thread a bit so I’ll leave it at this. Sorry!
 
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I don't know a single producer or dealer who uses made to measure tack on each horse. It's extremely common to share tack across horses in commercial set ups and is nothing to set alarm bells off about. Most people get a made to measure saddle as soon as the horse is home.

I think @Birker2020 phoned up about this big chestnut https://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/381331 months ago and realised something there was something off about the story.

This - I once viewed a horse with a dealer and had to wait for another viewing to finish so that they could nick the bridle off of the other horse. Bits and saddles should both be properly fitted, but I doubt most dealers would because it isn't financially viable and they're just trying to move horses along as quickly as possible.
 
I don't know a single producer or dealer who uses made to measure tack on each horse. It's extremely common to share tack across horses in commercial set ups and is nothing to set alarm bells off about. Most people get a made to measure saddle as soon as the horse is home.

I think @Birker2020 phoned up about this big chestnut https://www.horsequest.co.uk/advertisment/381331 months ago and realised something there was something off about the story.
Yes don't go there. For further info pm me.
 
They’re being ridden in the same tack, and unless my eyes deceive me, without saddlepads. Make of that what you will. (I don’t think you’re at fault for posting the ads, it’s a genuine mistake to make sometimes).



Also the way he was struggling to canter made me wince, definitely something fishy there. Also, the trotting seemed off to me, don’t know how. Also looks like EMS is an issue, which is fine with the correct facilities, but definitely not easy. I also wonder if lami could be an explanation for the interesting movement.
You can't presume every fat horse has Ems though and very overweight horses will be harder to get going. Canter issue would put me off much more though because of the link with potential SI issues and it looked like more than just being fat. So not a fan of him.

The tack is not the same on the Connies: one is in a bosal, one looks to be in a full cheek snaffle, neither of which (nor are the horses) the type to be from 'interesting caravan sites'. The browner one is really nice to me but I'd want HSD status cos, well, Connie.
A correctly fitted saddle shouldn't need a pad, so it's not necessarily less comfortable for the horse to be ridden without one, and I would worry more about uncomfortable pressure points in a treeless (they do still need fitting to the horse and rider) especially in a breaker you want to have good associations with its first saddle.

I guess it's horses 4 courses. I'm not in the market nor likely to be anytime soon so my opinion is a moot point 😂
 
They’re being ridden in the same tack, and unless my eyes deceive me, without saddlepads. Make of that what you will. (I don’t think you’re at fault for posting the ads, it’s a genuine mistake to make sometimes).



Also the way he was struggling to canter made me wince, definitely something fishy there. Also, the trotting seemed off to me, don’t know how. Also looks like EMS is an issue, which is fine with the correct facilities, but definitely not easy. I also wonder if lami could be an explanation for the interesting movement.
Oh I see what you mean re the canter, it is off! The neck is huge!
 
Oh I see what you mean re the canter, it is off! The neck is huge!
A thorough try out in all school paces and a vetting should be priority for anyone considering this horse.
But the neck - this is obviously an unfit animal and only a part bred, but for a Welsh D that is not a ‘huge’ neck, and unless you check the passport, do not know whether he was cut young or mature either - which makes a considerable difference to stature. Compare pictures of hunting fit, or marathon-driven, Welsh stallions.
And it can be very comforting to have a solid, baroque, neck in front of you crossing difficult country, or just if it spooks!
Warmblood or TB, yep, it’s far too cresty, even allowing for being stout.
 
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