interesting use of beanbags!
that's reminded me of something, watching that:
what i can't understand, having watched quite a bit of Parelli etc, is why, when a horse is being worked at liberty, and doing as instructed, they work with their ears right back, looking really really pi***d off. Please can someone explain this to me?
Is it because they want to just go off and do their thing, and there's a conflict in their mind, because the training makes them stay? i don't get it.
Its not very natural for a horse to sit on a bean bag, and do circus tricks? mmm horses look healthy but dont think i feel comfortable with this either.
Come on guys, 10/10 for the horses who are laid back enough to let people teach them such daft tricks, mine would rollover laughing if I showed it a beanbag, then trash it. Youve got to laugh that people think up these ideas and have the time to waste teaching the horses. I can see why people get upset about seeing this sort of thing, but it will always go on while ever we keep watching them!
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Come on guys, 10/10 for the horses who are laid back enough to let people teach them such daft tricks, mine would rollover laughing if I showed it a beanbag, then trash it. Youve got to laugh that people think up these ideas and have the time to waste teaching the horses. I can see why people get upset about seeing this sort of thing, but it will always go on while ever we keep watching them!
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You have a point but it makes me cross because it is so undignified! Horses are beautiful, proud and strong animals and I think it is awful to see them do circus trricks like this.
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ummm...do you think a horse feels "dignified" all harnessed up or covered in any tack for that matter being asked to do anything really?
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lol - not really but somehow this is more acceptable - perhaps because as a rider the aim is to appreciate/enhance the horse's natural way of going? Or maybe just that we are used to eeing t hem this way (ie as a human I have a problem with it but the horses probably don't see it as any different?) I do admit that it is an admirable piece of training - Just something in me doesn't like making a horse sit on cushions I guess!
I used to know a horse that would sit down in the field like that. It was the weirdest thing it would just sit there like a dog looking at you, but was never given a command to do it, he just did! It looks really funny tho. Don't know that the video sits that comfortably with me either, but I don't really like any animals doing tricks, just comes down to personal choice I suspose
Funny, I had a really nice time with my young mare tonight. Took her into the school for a quick lunge, but someone had left poles,cones, crates and jumps scattered everywhere. Took off the lungline while I walked about putting stuff away (expected her to roll and have a sniff about) She followed me all over the school, sometimes alongside, sometimes behind, I started playing, and she ended up doing bending round a line of cones in and out, trotting over crosspoles with me, and by the end I could send her through 'gateways' of cones without going through myself. She did all of this loose, she had her ears pricked and seemed to be really enjoying herself.
In the end she didn't get her exercise lunge - I figured she'd done enough - but it was fun and as she was happy, I'll do it again. Wouldn't do it if she looked grumpy - it was all free will, with a young horse who just seemed to want to make me smile.
Its great that horses are so clever to pick stuff like that u but i am not particually fond of it and dont think much to it.
Didnt like the fact that he always ha his stick with him though.
Didn't watch it all, but I felt a bit uncomfortable when the foal was nosing under the other foal, clearly looking for the milk bar.
I don't want to teach my horse tricks, but I do wish that at the age of 16 he had worked out that when I walk towards him carrying his NZ rug, it is NOT going to suddenly morph into a tiger and attack him! Cue him then disappearing off down the field and me plodding after him swearing!
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I do wish that at the age of 16 he had worked out that when I walk towards him carrying his NZ rug, it is NOT going to suddenly morph into a tiger and attack him! Cue him then disappearing off down the field and me plodding after him swearing!
Where do you draw the line between tricks and "acceptable" training though?
It's not even natural for a horse to have a rider on it's back!
What's "natural" about show jumping, western riding, bull fighting, ploughing etc.
Every one to his own - the horses look well cared for and as in the age-old argument defending show jumping, steplchasing etc, - the horses's wouldn't do it if they didn't want to.
Not my cup of tea and seriously cheesy but what the heck they seemed well looked after. Undignified perhaps but I don't think the horses would be too bothered about that.
Don't think this is any different to teaching a horse Dressage - which clearly isn't their 'natural way of going' as otherwise why do so many horses struggle with it? XC, SJ, vaulting, western, etc etc.
Presumably he trains for TV work? Looks similar to Parelli to me which is all about playing games with your horse isn't it?
These guys have a huge following, and sell their specialised beanbags and cue sticks (with ping pong ball thingy) for quite a bit.
The site is quite interesting actually, and he is one of the few that actually publishes how he trains for the tricks. I've been reading the forum for a couple of years now and people are quite as enthusiastic about this as NH etc.
Cant see a problem really, they look healthy and well cared for, we train them to do other stuff like jumping all sorts of dangerous stuff and ride in traffic
i'm divided over teaching horses "tricks" ... part of me thinks its a bit wrong / unnatural, but then i think how "natural" is it to teach horses fancy grand prix dressage movements etc too.
if its not hurting [physically or mentally] the horses then its ok i guess. but the bean bag thing looks odd