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Well changed forum name as need a drink now.
New horse, thread of which got seriously out of control, some of you seemed to be getting a bit hysterical, and were not obviously reading my replies properly. Anyway, said nag reared up this morning. This confidence giver suitable for beginners. Not being asked to do anything controversial. I think any of you would agree this is not acceptable. So he will be leaving me asap. This is only post I will make
 
Rearing....not good.

I agree. Mines a pint too.
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I assume you will be reading. I hope you sell the horse honestly and let the purchaser know this behaviour came about after 4 weeks in the field and not immediately after you purchased it. There sounds like a lot more to this story not least a very nervous rider and a failed vetting.
 
Did you manage to get hold of the vendors?

Its not going to be easy for you to sell on a 14 yr old, spooky, rearing horse that won't be caught
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Can you tell us what it failed it's vetting on?

assuming it was a 5* as nobody in their right mind would buy something that fails a basic 2*
 
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I haven't responded to any of your earlier posts, so can't be accused of being hysterical, but it seems to me you are out on a mission to make sure nobody on HHO likes you or is happy to give you any advice.
You made a mistake, bought unsuitable horse, it happens to all of us - deal with it and get over it!
I suppose you will be sending off do a dealer next? Because any half decent dealer would like to buy a nutcase that failed vet
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Reared, oh dear I hope you were ok, were you riding the horse at the time?, I take it you have sorted some tack out now for the horse.

Is there any chance of perhaps of you paying someone danger money to work the horse for you to see if something can be done to improve the horses attitude to work, providing the horse has no medical reasons as to why he's go this spooky behaviour, as sometimes it can be pain related.

Then at least the horse would be getting a fair chance in experianced hands (not saying your not) but just to see if a different rider makes any difference?
 
as posted before....

all horses have it in their nature to spook, if they didn't I would assume the horse is depressed and lacks a personality.

you've only had him 4 weeks give the chap a chance to settle in! he's probably feeling a lot of confusion and feeling very unsettled right now. Imagine yourself being sat on for the first time in a new environment, new horses, new smells, new people and a new owner. It's very daunting!!

However if you're not confident enough to ride it get someone who is, give him a chance to get used to his new surroundings. Get to know him, by all accords you've chucked him in a field and sat on his back? no wonder the poor boy is unconfident and feels the new to spook!

patience is a virtue. give him some time and yourself some time, and i'm sure he will grow in confidence as will you.

(also when horses are advertised as bombproof I completely ignore that because no horse is bombproof!)

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you've just recently bought a new saddle, are you sure it fits and have you had it's back done?!?!
 
What a shame. I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do. Buying a horse is so tricky nowadays. I have managed to get some real good ones but have had some 'wrong ens' inbetween. Purchased a beautiful mare in March who turned out to be spooky and worse than that lame. (long story) I have clearly been ' Done'
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I read the last post with amazement

Some horses settle better than others, and he obviously finds moving traumatic. But I think it is better for you to sell this horse, as you obviously do not have the time or the patience he needs, and he is certainly making his feelings plain...... infact he is now shouting at you.

For all concerned I feel he should be rehomed as you both very obviously do not like each other and are plainly unsuited
 
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Can you tell us what it failed it's vetting on?

assuming it was a 5* as nobody in their right mind would buy something that fails a basic 2*

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JM if I remember the post rightly (I answered it) on flexion it was 2/10 lame in one front and 5/10s on one hind so vet said ? spavin, vendors dropped £1000 off the price
 
So, basically this horse is in pain/discomfort AND in a new home with a nervous/unconfident rider?!

No wonder this hasn't turned out well! Can't really understand now why the horse was purchased in the first place - surely 5/10s lame is a pretty visible lameness?!

I imagine, if this horse has spavin then it is quite possibly suffering from some associated soreness in its back and having a new saddle fitted could have added to this discomfort.

I certainly see rearing as a vice and I wouldn't put up with it but, I am not entirely convinced this horse is the 'devil' it is being made out to be either and the purchaser bought a horse that was already obviously not sound!
 
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Did you manage to get hold of the vendors?

Its not going to be easy for you to sell on a 14 yr old, spooky, rearing horse that won't be caught
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You forgot lame, lol.
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OP, I felt bad for you before but it sounds like there weren't just subtle alarm bells, there were sirens and you ignored them. Do yourself, the horse and all other future mugs a favour and just have it shot, it doesn't sound like you can have paid too much.
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'Well he was lame on foreleg for 2 strides and on back for 6
also thinks he has a slight pelvic tilt. They wanted 3000 for him but obviously not worth that. DOnt know whether to walk away or not, he is a well behaved safe hack which I want, but as my present horse has arthritis problems and I was paranoid about him when I hacked out. Vet cant say whther this will develop into anything or not . Damn and Blast it'

I was wrong, copied from original post, I'll blame my memory on the drugs
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My thoughts exactly Romany
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I did not comment on the original thread because I did not think we were being told the whole story, but am glad that you have decided to part with the horse and give him another chance with someone else.

Reminds me SO much of selling my 1st horse, a section D. I said to the purchaser over and over and over again that he was a typical section D, not badly behaved but if you let him take the p*ss then he would do, but she assured me she had expert help at her yard.... found out she sold him through a dealer 6 months later because he was too much for her
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Thankfully that time he went to someone who had a more realistic view of their competence levels
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