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I am just wondering what people's interpretation of 'full livery' is? I know it will vary from place to place, but on a general and basic level what do you consider it should include?

From my perspective I would consider full livery to be food, shelter, and use of facilities (ie: arena).

The reason I ask is that I joined a yard during the summer. All the horses were in big field, loads of grass, and hay in the eve. Now that winter is coming they are staying in the paddocks during the day, so they will need feeding to supplement no grass. YO is telling me food is not included in full livery. It never occured to me that full livery would not entail 'food and shelter', as this has been the case in every other yard I've been in. Does this sound normal?

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I would expect food to be included. when i had a horse on full livery everything was included except shoeing and worming which was an extra charge.
 
I thought full livery meant stable, bedding and forage. Hard feed would be extra as not all horses need it and some need special diets.

I would also expect my horse to be looked after, stable mucked out, horse turned in/out etc and generally looked after as if I was doing it myself.

Use of the facilities.

Do you not have a contract stating what you get for your money?
 
I have my horse on full livery and includes hard feed, haylage, bedding and all the usual! I buy supplements myself and I think unless the hard feed is specialist then it should be included in livery - as I think it's wrong that a YO should fork out for 10 different bags of feed all the time, whereas if it was the same feed as everyone else then I'd expect it to be included in the livery.
 
Mine includes feed, bedding, hay, use of facilities, bringing in / out, changing of rugs, attendance for vet & farrier. Basically everything except exercising and any "specials" that the horse required - ie supplements or special feed
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See, i think Full Livery includes exercise, whether it be ridden or on the walker. Essentially, if your horse is on Full Livery, you should be able to turn up one day a month and ride, and then clear off again. Why you would bother paying full livery prices for such a situation is another story, but there people who need such an arrangement.
 
I definitely wouldn't expect any specialist diet to be provided without additional cost. I am not fussy what the hard feed is so long as she keeps her energy and condition throught the winter. Any supplements to her feed I would happily buy.

Chico Mio: Nobody there has a contract. But a new girl said she was told by YO that feed is included in full livery. Now I'm worried that we pay the same and are being offered less. I will definitely be having a discussion with the YO, but I wanted to check first if my thinking on this was fair.
 
Full livery to me at the bare minimum would mean stable, turnout, basic daily care (mucking out, watering, feeding, rugging), and inclusive of hay/bedding and basic hard feed.

Personally I class as what I have just described as part livery but I know others call it full.
 
Anything to do with working a horse I would call, working, production, show, competition, or breaking livery
Full livery I would expect to inc stable turnout hay bedding and hard feed turn out rug change bring in.
My horse is on production livery i pay for no extras apart from fuel and entry fees, my old horse was on the same, he required small amount of hard feed and little schooling the new one requires breaking and lots more hard feed so i guess i'm getting a lot more for my money this time around
 
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