Furious at what ive just seen

[Jenko109]

A facebook post, linking to a go fund me page.

The go fund me page is requesting money for a litter of puppies they have bred, who have parvo, who they cannot afford to treat and also CANNOT AFFORD TO PTS.

I just cant put into words how disgusted I am.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Oh lord, how sad. I hope the puppies make it. ?

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

A facebook post, linking to a go fund me page.

The go fund me page is requesting money for a litter of puppies they have bred, who have parvo, who they cannot afford to treat and also CANNOT AFFORD TO PTS.

I just cant put into words how disgusted I am.

I completely understand your feelings!

 

[Nicnac]

Gosh I hope no-one donates and the pups and bitch are taken to a rescue where they'll be looked after. Guess this awful person would then sell the puppies but not reimburse the idiots people who contributed to the GFM....

 

[CorvusCorax]

I'm sure that if and when they recover, they will be given away to good homes for free. Right? RIGHT?!

 

[AmyMay]

Link?

 

[Jenko109]

https://gofund.me/53035520

 

[AmyMay]

https://gofund.me/53035520

Bloody tragic ?

 

[AmyMay]

Couldn’t find anything on fb at all, under her name or otherwise. Could it be a scam?

 

[asmp]

I see everyone is rushing to help out (not). ?

 

[BallyRoanBaubles]

Omg

 

[Jenko109]

Couldn’t find anything on fb at all, under her name or otherwise. Could it be a scam?

The person who posted it is a long term poster on a local group. Says she knows the owner of the puppies personally. So sadly, I dont think it's a scam.

 

[SilverLinings]

I'm sure that if and when they recover, they will be given away to good homes for free. Right? RIGHT?!

Yes, I mean there's no way they chose to breed seeing it as easy money...

Just a shame they didn't engage their brain first and have a little think about how they might cope if it didn't all go exactly as planned. How do they think they can keep the single bitch healthy and happy (even with out having used her to breed from) if they have to beg for the money to PTS?

 

[Jenko109]

Poor redacting

 

[Jenko109]

 

[Jenko109]

 

[AmyMay]

I’m amazed that a vet nor the PDSA will euthanase the puppies.

 

[Jenko109]

Exactly.

More like shes hanging on and hoping they somehow pull through so that she can sell them.

Furthermore, a rescue somewhere would take them, probably insisting mum is also surrendered. Again, no money in that option is there.

 

[SilverLinings]

I know that rescues are overwhelmed at the moment, but this is a case where I think that handing them over to the rescue might be the best option for all the dogs. It sounds as though the owner couldn't afford an emergency vet's bill for just one dog let alone several, and it also seems ethically dubious that if others pay for her vet bills now then she will make quite a bit of profit from selling the puppies. At least a rescue would be able to ensure that all their health needs (and microchipping) were met before they were re-homed, and neutering would reduce the chance of another situation like this. I am not sure that any rescues have room, but I suppose puppies would be relatively easy to rehome (just expensive to nurse/treat back to full health).

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

I'm sure that if and when they recover, they will be given away to good homes for free. Right? RIGHT?!

Sadly I think that will be a moot point. It is very rare for tiny pups to survive Parvo.

 

[SilverLinings]

Sadly I think that will be a moot point. It is very rare for tiny pups to survive Parvo.

In that case it is awful that she can't afford to PTS. The GoFundMe page makes it look like the owner has no money for any treatment/PTS, so what is happening to the puppies whilst she tries to raise funds? Presumably the vet wouldn't allow them to go totally untreated and just start dying off?

 

[MrsMozartleto]

Sadly I think that will be a moot point. It is very rare for tiny pups to survive Parvo.

Probably this. Many years ago my pup got Parvo. It was horrific and he was in the vets for a good two weeks, possibly longer I don't recall the exact period now. He went downhill so very quickly and if we hadn't found him (hiding under the steps) when we did he'd not have made it. As it were he was very weak for a long time.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Surely the PDSA would pts the lot if asked? Why are they saying they won’t do anything until the first dead pup’s bill is paid?

 

[satinbaze]

Apparently there is a lot of parvo around at the moment. It is so bad here (Nottingham) that the out of hours vets were sending people to Derby as they were overwhelmed with parvo cases

 

[Clodagh]

Not pdsa but my niece is a vet nurse and last night they had a cat in with kidney failure. The owner couldn’t afford pts so apparently they just kept it comfortable (ish) until it died. I don’t know the why’s and wherefores of that course of action.
She also ( talking about another case) said the owner wouldn’t authorise pts so they couldn’t. It was an abuse case. Awful.

 

[SilverLinings]

Apparently there is a lot of parvo around at the moment. It is so bad here (Nottingham) that the out of hours vets were sending people to Derby as they were overwhelmed with parvo cases

With the massive increase in backyard breeding and imported 'rescues' over the last couple of years I'm actually quite surprised that we haven't seen more/more serious disease outbreaks recently in the UK dog population. Extrapolating from this breeder who has to beg for money for vets bills, I expect there are a large number of unwormed and unvaccinated puppies and dogs around at the moment (due to ignorance as well as finances).

 

[Smitty]

Really, where do you start.

Pups of whatever breed were worth over £1,000, now they are not.

People are still breeding.

I have every faith in PDSA to do the best they can, but they cannot deal with everything and so some have to slip past the net.

Blame the breeders:. Vets and PDSA can't be held responsible for every unwanted litter. It costs money and vets are not a charity, PDSA are but to my knowledge are a safety net for those that cannot afford vet treatment for their pet if it needs help.

 

[SilverLinings]

Really, where do you start.

Pups of whatever breed were worth over £1,000, now they are not.

People are still breeding.

I have every faith in PDSA to do the best they can, but they cannot deal with everything and so some have to slip past the net.

Blame the breeders:. Vets and PDSA can't be held responsible for every unwanted litter. It costs money and vets are not a charity, PDSA are but to my knowledge are a safety net for those that cannot afford vet treatment for their pet if it needs help.

I definitely don't blame vets or charities for this sort of situation (either the breeder who can't afford vet bills or the parvo outbreak mentioned up-thread), and hope it didn't come across like that? They are both problems caused/exacerbated by get-rich-quick novice breeders, puppy farms, and unscrupulous foreign rescues (I know there are also legitimate ones), not to mention the numpties who see a pretty/cute/funny/impressive/threatening dog on Instagram and go and buy a puppy the next day having done zero research into dog-keeping or dog behaviour. The vets, PDSA and rescues are left to pick up the pieces.

Puppy prices have started going down but looking at some of the types of puppies for sale (and who bred them) I think the 'hobby' breeders have been a bit slow to realise the demand has fallen, and if they don't catch up quick there are going to be either unwanted puppies or very cheap puppies for sale.

 

[Tiddlypom]

https://www.pdsa.org.uk/pet-help-an...-your-pet/all-pets/should-i-breed-from-my-pet

What is PDSA’s stance on breeding?

We always recommend getting your pet neutered and would advise against breeding from them.

As a veterinary charity, it isn’t right for us to use our limited resources to support any of our clients who decide to breed their pet. We clearly explain to our clients that if they choose to breed their pet, they’ll need to take their pet to private vet for any treatment relating to the pregnancy or birth.

However, we will always provide life-saving treatment if a pet’s life is in danger because of pregnancy or birth. Once the pet is stable, we’ll refer the pet to a private vet for more treatment.