Further to Bosworth's thread.....there are some really weird people out there....

Oh has the Facebook page gone? I hadn't noticed that, good news :)


It does make you wonder, he seems relatively normal when you meet him :eek:
 
Humbug has been castrated now, and is recovering nicely by all accounts.

However Mr Martin is now planning to approach the government to overturn the rules that allow organisations to castrate dogs... He is obviously a very silly stupid little man!

GRWE have put a statement on their website & Facebook page.

I wholeheartedly support GRWE they are wonderful and hopefully they can forget all about this now!
 
I think Mr Martin has a good point,vasectomy in dogs is very simple,I know ,because one of mine was done ,he was in danger of mating his own daughters,he remained a happy chappie with no consequences. It is a rather archaic form of birth control ....I wonder how the human race would feel about this method being the norm.Both work well..so why the arguement?
 
I think a lot of people have an issue keeping an essentially entire but infertile dog EK. There are the health implications but also those issues of straying, potential aggression to other dogs etc. however I think the real issue everyone has with Mr Marin is that he has attacked an organisation that works incredibly hard helping sight hounds relying on public donation and an army of volunteers, the have neither the funding or resource to deal with this petty issue he has.

I guess the castration question could be used across an awful lot of domesticated species, Dogs, Cats, Horses, Sheep, Cattle... etc etc etc... Personally I wouldn't want to keep an entire dog with natural urges that he wouldn't be able to act upon...
 
If we are going to compare humans and dogs, a man can have a vasectomy reversed (not a good success rate I concede), so a rescue dog having a vasectomy isn't an absolute guarantee that at some point it won't be able to produce puppies.
 
I honestly doubt you would find any vet who would reverse a vasectomy.To me a perfect answer,and so simple too. Dogs should only be in enclosed gardens and under control,as for aggression,well castration can make things a whole lot worse.Cheaper,less invasive;of course you could go the American ,more expensive,way, with a pair of neutricles.
It is so simple that it is a very common op in rams,they are then used as teasers for the ewes to thus bring them all into season..and later lambing..at the same time. Less time spent up all night in the lambing barn is the welcome result.
 
MurphysMinder said:
If we are going to compare humans and dogs, a man can have a vasectomy reversed (not a good success rate I concede), so a rescue dog having a vasectomy isn't an absolute guarantee that at some point it won't be able to produce puppies.
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Not just that but vasectomy's aren't a100pc guaranteed OHs best mate had to be done twice :eek::D
 
I think the point is- if you want to rescue a dog from a certain organisation then respect their policies- or go elsewhere. No one would bat an eyelid if he had his own dog vasectomised- this was not and still is not his dog.

They have policies for a reason- would there be any support for him if he was saying the "adequate fencing" policy was also rubbish?
 
My husband's ex wife is like that. She rescued a lab from the lab rescue we got one of ours from (whatever we does, she does!) on the condition that she should have it neutered. Three years on she hasn't, and is now talking about breeding it with a friend's lab "to have cute puppies and because they are both lovely dogs.." Neither dog has papers or hip scores etc. I so want to ring the rescue and tell them, but it would just create more issues between us. So far she has only talked about doing it. But how can someone who takes a rescue not see that breeding would probably end up with the puppies as future lab rescues.
 
I had mine done purely for risk of straying. I take mine out off lead on the New Forest and regularly meet bitches in season. Yes their owners may be stupid but I can't stop them. Having been done he is still interested but obedient. I personally have yet to meet someone with a full dog that is loose around bitches in heat that they would have total control. I'm sure there are some out there but I don't admit to being any kind of super dog trainer and I'm well aware I did not have that level of control.
 
Did you know a neutered dog can and will mate and tie a flirty bitch?? Seen it myself..and the bitch was spayed to boot!Amazing.
 
EAST KENT said:
Did you know a neutered dog can and will mate and tie a flirty bitch?? Seen it myself..and the bitch was spayed to boot!Amazing.
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Yes I knew that, that is just one of the reasons that GRWE castrate dogs not give them a vasectomy :)

However, all is irrelevant now as Humbug has been castrated and is a lovely new, experienced home :):):)
 
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