Gerard Butler Warned Off

The tip of a huge iceberg by the looks of it! The vets also have a lot to answer for imho. Who really knows what is pumped into and done to these horses? It all stinks to high heaven!
 
Its a disgrace, Jim McGrath was livid [for him] says the punishment does not fit the crime, which is true.
If Jockey club rules are not sufficiently harsh, they should also prosecute him as it is against the law of the land.
He should be warned off for life. "pour encourager les autres"
 
amandap said:
The tip of a huge iceberg by the looks of it! The vets also have a lot to answer for imho. Who really knows what is pumped into and done to these horses? It all stinks to high heaven!
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Butler is thought to have bought the stuff off the net, looks like he wanted to keep it quiet.
What McGrath was indicating was that some horse are sent to pre training type yards for R&R, coming back fit and sound, but possibly pumped full of steroids.
 
A fair few of us would have seen vets injecting joints. It is a highly complex procedure that carries significant risks. I find it incredible that anyone could start poking needles into horse's joints thinking they are doing any good.

Butler is a disgrace. Heaven knows what damage he did to the horses he messed with.
 
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That is appalling :( Rossdales don't come out of it looking too good either judging from that one report :(
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That's a sweeping remark based on the brief mention of ONE of Rossdale's (many) vets. Oddly enough, he's not on the staff list anymore. But what makes you think he was involved - why would the trainer buy drugs off the internet and muck up their use if he had a tame vet??

ETA Just noticed the vet has returned to Australia - as previously planned.
 
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Janet, I would generally be the first, to fly to the defence of those professionals who are being dragged in to this sorry and sordid mess, but the truth of the matter is that there has been a measure of collusion on the part of some equine practices, and for them to maintain a degree of credibility, they need to issue joint statements to the effect that their professional stance will never in the future be tainted by any form of collusion, and that if the Law of the Land is being broken and if they are aware of that, then it behoves all of them to consider where they stand.

Alec.
 
As I have already said JanetGeorge, my comment was based on the information contained in that one report. I was not referring to any particular vet, but to the practice in general as they are mentioned in the article? I don't have any other knowledge of the incident other than that which the journalist has included in the article, and I am very well aware of how the media can manipulate the facts to support their story if they wish.
 
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Janet, I would generally be the first, to fly to the defence of those professionals who are being dragged in to this sorry and sordid mess, but the truth of the matter is that there has been a measure of collusion on the part of some equine practices, and for them to maintain a degree of credibility, they need to issue joint statements to the effect that their professional stance will never in the future be tainted by any form of collusion, and that if the Law of the Land is being broken and if they are aware of that, then it behoves all of them to consider where they stand.

Alec.
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Legality aside, vets also take an oath in UK which includes constantly striving to ensure the welfare of animals in their care!
It seems this aspect is sometimes put below other priorities!

Quote from the link below. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1524840/

“Inasmuch as the privilege of membership of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons is about to be conferred upon me, I PROMISE AND SOLEMNLY DECLARE that I will abide in all due loyalty to the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons and will do all in my power to maintain and promote its interests. I PROMISE ABOVE ALL that I will pursue the work of my profession with uprightness of conduct and that my constant endeavour will be to ensure the welfare of animals committed to my care”


We also know nothing about the other trainers involved in this type of practice and so far they ( and staff) remain un named! Smacks of a scapegoat to me I'm afraid to say
 
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But the drug originally administered by the vet was a legal drug approved for joint medication. The stuff Butler
got on the Internet was something different.
It was up to Butler to inform the BHA & not run his horses whilst under the influence.
It's just that the RCVS don't officially join up with the racing authorities in a formal way.
 
KautoStar1 said:
But the drug originally administered by the vet was a legal drug approved for joint medication. The stuff Butler
got on the Internet was something different.
It was up to Butler to inform the BHA & not run his horses whilst under the influence.
It's just that the RCVS don't officially join up with the racing authorities in a formal way.
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Not sure what you mean in your last sentence, the Rules are clear and vets treating racehorses are well aware of all the Rules, a medication book is kept by the trainer, and it matters not whether the drug was an aspirin or anything else, the Rules have been contravened.
The Racing Authorities have veterinary officers working at all levels.
THe RCVS take any complaint seriously, and all formal communications are recorded. They can ban members from practicing, but the punishments are not proving sufficient to stop this happening. One can only wonder at the stupidity of the trainer, losing his livelihood and good friends in one fell swoop.
 
I think the sungate product was officially recorded & the BHA were aware of that. Its the stuff Butler git & administered that wasnt recorded. & its the trainers responsibility to opłatę the BHA not the vet administering it.
 
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