I See Clover
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My mum and I have been at said yard nearly a year now. Previous to that we had been there for around 5 years until 2006 with no problems.
A new livery came about 4 weeks ago with a loan horse. New livery seemed really nice and so did her mum. Loan horse was only here about a week then sent back as they said the owner was a psycho. They then bought a 4 year old mare from a dealer.
New mare was put into our field with our mare (11 years), our gelding (19 months) and our friends mare (5 years). Liveries mum isnt horsey, is fairly scared of them and can exaggerate the horses behaviour as a result.
For first couple of days our gelding had been a bit excited about the new addition to the field. Nothing aggressive, just pestering her a bit by going up to her a lot. She would chase him away and he would go. New livery and mum mentioned this a couple of times, but we said its just because shes new to the field and they would all settle - which they did.
New liveries best friend (who has 2 horses at another yard) came up to see liveries new horse. She seemed quite friendly. Next day livery started bitching about her saying she has a 5 year old mare that is a complete psycho, friend is scared of it, cant go in the stable without it trying to kill you, unbroken because everyone has refused to go near it, blah blah. Then find out the other day that said friend was to be moving up to our yard and welshie was getting put into our field after new livery encouraged her!?
Liveries mum started to get quite mouthy about everyone else up at the yard, making up brutal names for other liveries and slagging the owners wife. It turned out the livery and her mum were some distant relative of the yard owners. They then started slagging off our friends husband and son, at which point we thought it was best to steer clear of them altogether. They werent just slagging these people off, but they were basically proactively sucking up their ***** and seeking friendship with them.
I try to avoid confrontation at all costs, I like to keep myself to myself and I hate getting involved in bitchiness like that so I kept my distance. I would say Hi to them and speak if spoken to, but I wouldnt go out my way to make conversations etc.
Then started to find out from our friend (whos husband and son they slagged) that they had been moaning about our gelding with different things each time. Started off with our gelding biting our friends mares neck. They were only playing, there werent any cuts/marks, and the mare had been reciprocating so wasnt unwanted etc. He went through a bit of a bolshy phase that he is starting to come out of. It was mostly stable manners - he would try and barge out stable door and not standing at the hose etc. My mum and I have worked on him ever since and is starting to behave again. Liveries mum piped up You need to give that horse a good ********* kick in or something to that effect. Livery and mum have been talking about us about various other stuff, basically just nit picking.
Like I said, I hate confrontation so I ignored everything that had been said and not risen to it thinking they would get bored and stop. But things just seemed to get worse and came to a head the other day. Went up in the afternoon to muck out - Livery and mum came up. Went round to another block of stables talking to a woman whom they refer to as wee fatty and talking away like best of friends. Went to go and get the horses in and liveries mum said its chaos out there. I just assumed they were having a run around or whatever. She never said anything else. Went to the field and they were standing dozing. Brought our mare in and our friend came round to my stable. Said that our gelding had been attempting to mount her mare for past couple of hours. We spoke about it and I said I would move him into another field with only geldings next day.
Turned out it was livery and her mum that had told my friend. Seems like they have had it in for our gelding since day one. I was really annoyed because instead of coming to me and telling me straightaway so I could get him out of the field, they decided to wait 30 minutes on my friend coming up and telling her. Also, they hadnt even been up 1 hour, so he couldnt have been at it for hours. Fields are a bit muddy just now due to weather so friend was expecting marks over the rug where our gelding had been attempting to mount. The rug was spotless. Our geldings legs were muddy from field so didnt add up. When we went to get the horses in, my horses were at the opposite side of the field to the two other horses. So was very dubious about believing their story.
Anyway, went to bring our gelding in and get everything done. Livery and mum were lingering around at my friends stable. She later told me they were goading her to phone my mum about the whole thing. Liveries mum later started private messaging our friend on Facebook asking if they had been any phone calls from us.
Next day, our gelding was put out in the other field just to avoid an argument and keep the peace. We had asked the yard owner if we could move stables as our gelding was finding his current stable quite tight. The beams are quite low and were getting in the way and corridor down to the stable was tight. We moved round to two other stables on opposite side of the yard. I was quite happy to be moving as it also meant we would be away from them and avoid anymore hassle.
Liveries mum came round in the afternoon asking if we had moved and I said we had. My mum was standing just around the corner and then took the dog for a walk. Liveries mum disappeared. Came back 2 mins later and demanded where my mum was. She had an attitude and was very snidey. She was trying to say my mum was ignoring her and as she was walking away said there better not be a ********** problem. I just ignored her. Mum came back and we finished the horses. Liveries mum came back around and started on my mum, saying she had ignored her twice. She didnt actually ask my mum anything. Liveries mum then said there must be a problem then and my mum admitted there was a bit of a problem and explained about the mounting etc. I said that she could have told me and I would have removed him from the field straightaway if that was the case. She said she did tell me. She walked away shouting and out of pure frustration I shouted back. My mum was pretty annoyed at the way she spoke to me and went around to the big barn where livery, mum and few other spectators were. Livery and mum was denying everything and trying to turn the blame on to our friend. It got a bit heated on both sides. There was a bit of shouting and swearing.
Mum and I left. Spoke to friend on the phone who told us they had left the yard and went straight to her door! They arent even friends. Since then they have aired their dirty laundry on Facebook. My mum went up to the yard to bring horses in this afternoon. I then had her crying down the phone saying we had been given a weeks notice to leave the yard. They had went to the owner and told him that I have been bad mouthing him for weeks and he has come to the conclusion I have instigated the whole situation.
I havent said a bad word about the owner. I have never heard such utter lies in my life. I dont even talk to the livery or her mum. For the past few weeks, I have barely been up when they or anyone else have been around and because of all their bitching I have deliberately distanced myself from them because I didnt want to be involved in all that. I keep myself to myself, I go up and do what I have to do and thats it.
We tried ignoring them but it just seemed to get worse and worse... to the point that we had to stick up for ourselves. The owner refused to listen when my mum tried to explain our side of the story - he had already made his mind up. I feel like this is grossly unfair.
We are genuinely nice people trying to enjoy our horses and distance ourselves from any havoc. We have spent 6 years there with no trouble whatsoever. New livery and her mum have been there 4 weeks, done all this damage, but because they are relatives we have to leave? In reflection, my mum and I could have dealt with it better than we did, but they seemed to be provoking the situation like they were seeking an argument.
Im not bothered about having to move yards, I would much rather be well away from people like that - people will eventually see for themselves how disgusting they have been about everyone else. But trying to find a yard and move within a week is tight. What happens if we cant find somewhere within that time? Can he physically put our horses off his land?
Sorry for such an essay, had to vent.
A new livery came about 4 weeks ago with a loan horse. New livery seemed really nice and so did her mum. Loan horse was only here about a week then sent back as they said the owner was a psycho. They then bought a 4 year old mare from a dealer.
New mare was put into our field with our mare (11 years), our gelding (19 months) and our friends mare (5 years). Liveries mum isnt horsey, is fairly scared of them and can exaggerate the horses behaviour as a result.
For first couple of days our gelding had been a bit excited about the new addition to the field. Nothing aggressive, just pestering her a bit by going up to her a lot. She would chase him away and he would go. New livery and mum mentioned this a couple of times, but we said its just because shes new to the field and they would all settle - which they did.
New liveries best friend (who has 2 horses at another yard) came up to see liveries new horse. She seemed quite friendly. Next day livery started bitching about her saying she has a 5 year old mare that is a complete psycho, friend is scared of it, cant go in the stable without it trying to kill you, unbroken because everyone has refused to go near it, blah blah. Then find out the other day that said friend was to be moving up to our yard and welshie was getting put into our field after new livery encouraged her!?
Liveries mum started to get quite mouthy about everyone else up at the yard, making up brutal names for other liveries and slagging the owners wife. It turned out the livery and her mum were some distant relative of the yard owners. They then started slagging off our friends husband and son, at which point we thought it was best to steer clear of them altogether. They werent just slagging these people off, but they were basically proactively sucking up their ***** and seeking friendship with them.
I try to avoid confrontation at all costs, I like to keep myself to myself and I hate getting involved in bitchiness like that so I kept my distance. I would say Hi to them and speak if spoken to, but I wouldnt go out my way to make conversations etc.
Then started to find out from our friend (whos husband and son they slagged) that they had been moaning about our gelding with different things each time. Started off with our gelding biting our friends mares neck. They were only playing, there werent any cuts/marks, and the mare had been reciprocating so wasnt unwanted etc. He went through a bit of a bolshy phase that he is starting to come out of. It was mostly stable manners - he would try and barge out stable door and not standing at the hose etc. My mum and I have worked on him ever since and is starting to behave again. Liveries mum piped up You need to give that horse a good ********* kick in or something to that effect. Livery and mum have been talking about us about various other stuff, basically just nit picking.
Like I said, I hate confrontation so I ignored everything that had been said and not risen to it thinking they would get bored and stop. But things just seemed to get worse and came to a head the other day. Went up in the afternoon to muck out - Livery and mum came up. Went round to another block of stables talking to a woman whom they refer to as wee fatty and talking away like best of friends. Went to go and get the horses in and liveries mum said its chaos out there. I just assumed they were having a run around or whatever. She never said anything else. Went to the field and they were standing dozing. Brought our mare in and our friend came round to my stable. Said that our gelding had been attempting to mount her mare for past couple of hours. We spoke about it and I said I would move him into another field with only geldings next day.
Turned out it was livery and her mum that had told my friend. Seems like they have had it in for our gelding since day one. I was really annoyed because instead of coming to me and telling me straightaway so I could get him out of the field, they decided to wait 30 minutes on my friend coming up and telling her. Also, they hadnt even been up 1 hour, so he couldnt have been at it for hours. Fields are a bit muddy just now due to weather so friend was expecting marks over the rug where our gelding had been attempting to mount. The rug was spotless. Our geldings legs were muddy from field so didnt add up. When we went to get the horses in, my horses were at the opposite side of the field to the two other horses. So was very dubious about believing their story.
Anyway, went to bring our gelding in and get everything done. Livery and mum were lingering around at my friends stable. She later told me they were goading her to phone my mum about the whole thing. Liveries mum later started private messaging our friend on Facebook asking if they had been any phone calls from us.
Next day, our gelding was put out in the other field just to avoid an argument and keep the peace. We had asked the yard owner if we could move stables as our gelding was finding his current stable quite tight. The beams are quite low and were getting in the way and corridor down to the stable was tight. We moved round to two other stables on opposite side of the yard. I was quite happy to be moving as it also meant we would be away from them and avoid anymore hassle.
Liveries mum came round in the afternoon asking if we had moved and I said we had. My mum was standing just around the corner and then took the dog for a walk. Liveries mum disappeared. Came back 2 mins later and demanded where my mum was. She had an attitude and was very snidey. She was trying to say my mum was ignoring her and as she was walking away said there better not be a ********** problem. I just ignored her. Mum came back and we finished the horses. Liveries mum came back around and started on my mum, saying she had ignored her twice. She didnt actually ask my mum anything. Liveries mum then said there must be a problem then and my mum admitted there was a bit of a problem and explained about the mounting etc. I said that she could have told me and I would have removed him from the field straightaway if that was the case. She said she did tell me. She walked away shouting and out of pure frustration I shouted back. My mum was pretty annoyed at the way she spoke to me and went around to the big barn where livery, mum and few other spectators were. Livery and mum was denying everything and trying to turn the blame on to our friend. It got a bit heated on both sides. There was a bit of shouting and swearing.
Mum and I left. Spoke to friend on the phone who told us they had left the yard and went straight to her door! They arent even friends. Since then they have aired their dirty laundry on Facebook. My mum went up to the yard to bring horses in this afternoon. I then had her crying down the phone saying we had been given a weeks notice to leave the yard. They had went to the owner and told him that I have been bad mouthing him for weeks and he has come to the conclusion I have instigated the whole situation.
I havent said a bad word about the owner. I have never heard such utter lies in my life. I dont even talk to the livery or her mum. For the past few weeks, I have barely been up when they or anyone else have been around and because of all their bitching I have deliberately distanced myself from them because I didnt want to be involved in all that. I keep myself to myself, I go up and do what I have to do and thats it.
We tried ignoring them but it just seemed to get worse and worse... to the point that we had to stick up for ourselves. The owner refused to listen when my mum tried to explain our side of the story - he had already made his mind up. I feel like this is grossly unfair.
We are genuinely nice people trying to enjoy our horses and distance ourselves from any havoc. We have spent 6 years there with no trouble whatsoever. New livery and her mum have been there 4 weeks, done all this damage, but because they are relatives we have to leave? In reflection, my mum and I could have dealt with it better than we did, but they seemed to be provoking the situation like they were seeking an argument.
Im not bothered about having to move yards, I would much rather be well away from people like that - people will eventually see for themselves how disgusting they have been about everyone else. But trying to find a yard and move within a week is tight. What happens if we cant find somewhere within that time? Can he physically put our horses off his land?
Sorry for such an essay, had to vent.
