Go straight in at Newcomers level for my first BSJA?

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

Next weekend I am planning to go to Kings Sedgemoor EC for my first BSJA! Want to do the senior discovery and do the senior newcomers (both are single phase). I just don't know if I am ready to do the newcomers! Haven't even done a 1m10 unaffiliated, have done quite up to height and technical 1m and won it. Also, I have been jumping 1m10-15 courses at home with a few fences at 1m25ish and my horse is definitely more than capable (have owned him for a few months so we are still moving up the levels together). Should I enter both and see how he goes in the discovery and then make a decision?? And do the last few jumps get any bigger than 1m10?? Also is Kings Sedgemoor a nice place to go for my first BSJA? Any replies would be greatly appreciated thanks so much

- us jumping at home

- last competition where we won, 1m

 

[TheMule]

They have a 1.05 open so I would do that in preference to the newcomers. It's a lovely venue with properly built courses

 

[Shay]

I don't know the venue but you should find BSJA courses up to height and technical. You might do better keeping it a little lower for your first time. No point in knocking your or your horse's confidence.

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

They have a 1.05 open so I would do that in preference to the newcomers. It's a lovely venue with properly built courses

That's a good idea thanks!

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

Also I'm really confused about the entries thing. Do you just pay on the day? Apparently that is the case but some people said that they specify on the schedule, they haven't said anything about entries on this schedule. Do I just assume that means they are on the day?

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

I don't know the venue but you should find BSJA courses up to height and technical. You might do better keeping it a little lower for your first time. No point in knocking your or your horse's confidence.

Okay, you might be right will discuss with my instructor as well. Thanks for replying

 

[ester]

Also I'm really confused about the entries thing. Do you just pay on the day? Apparently that is the case but some people said that they specify on the schedule, they haven't said anything about entries on this schedule. Do I just assume that means they are on the day?

they probably are but if you ask on the fb page I am sure Charlotte would confirm for you.

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

ester, thanks have asked her

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

here are the pictures I tried to attach in the first post, sorry I am new at this xD

 

[blood_magik]

well, you've done more than me in terms of schooling at home and I jumped my first NC the other weekend.
I jumped the 1.05m first (my normal class) and then went into the newcomers thinking that I could pull up if I felt like I was in over my head.

I would maybe see what the coursebuilder has done in terms of height and technicality before making a decision. I only did the NC because I knew it would be a nice inviting course for my first attempt - if it was the other builder that had done it, I would have pulled out.

Good luck. you must let us all know how you get on.

eta - classes are generally 1-2 holes bigger in the second phase or jump off so the NC will be 1.10 - 1.20m.

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

well, you've done more than me in terms of schooling at home and I jumped my first NC the other weekend.
I jumped the 1.05m first (my normal class) and then went into the newcomers thinking that I could pull up if I felt like I was in over my head.

I would maybe see what the coursebuilder has done in terms of height and technicality before making a decision. I only did the NC because I knew it would be a nice inviting course for my first attempt - if it was the other builder that had done it, I would have pulled out.

Good luck. you must let us all know how you get on.

eta - classes are generally 1-2 holes bigger in the second phase or jump off so the NC will be 1.10 - 1.20m.

ok I might just start with 1m5 open then instead of 1m, I know my horse will take care of me he's been there and done it! And then I'll see about the NC and at least I will have done a 1m5 if I decide to pull out, will try to get my instructor to come with so he can help me make a decision! Will let you know, thanks!

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

well, you've done more than me in terms of schooling at home and I jumped my first NC the other weekend.
I jumped the 1.05m first (my normal class) and then went into the newcomers thinking that I could pull up if I felt like I was in over my head.

I would maybe see what the coursebuilder has done in terms of height and technicality before making a decision. I only did the NC because I knew it would be a nice inviting course for my first attempt - if it was the other builder that had done it, I would have pulled out.

Good luck. you must let us all know how you get on.

eta - classes are generally 1-2 holes bigger in the second phase or jump off so the NC will be 1.10 - 1.20m.

does the width of the spreads change as well in the second phase??

 

[blood_magik]

No, I dont think so... I've never really thought about the width of any of the oxers being an issue, tbh

 

[ljohnsonsj]

Don't know what this venue builds like but bs are always more built up than unaff. If your horse is experienced you shouldn't have an issue but the oxers etc are very square bs so do look beefy! Good luck x

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

Don't know what this venue builds like but bs are always more built up than unaff. If your horse is experienced you shouldn't have an issue but the oxers etc are very square bs so do look beefy! Good luck x

Yeah he is he's a 1* eventer and has jumped a 1m15 members cup before and come third which was a long time ago but he would have only gotten better. Ok have hired out the school at west wilts for team training today will ask the instructor to build some big square overs. Thanks very much!

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

No, I dont think so... I've never really thought about the width of any of the oxers being an issue, tbh

ok that's good to hear a lot of people say the width of the oxers was the scariest thing!

 

[Zerotolerance]

If your horse is experienced and has done BS before, have you checked his record to see which classes he is eligible for? you don't want to start your BS career off with a fine!
As to jump sizes, the oxers will be mostly "square" so in the Newcomers jump off section could be 1.20 high and 1.20 wide.
Good luck.

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

If your horse is experienced and has done BS before, have you checked his record to see which classes he is eligible for? you don't want to start your BS career off with a fine!
As to jump sizes, the oxers will be mostly "square" so in the Newcomers jump off section could be 1.20 high and 1.20 wide.
Good luck.

he is grade C does that mean I will be fine to do the 1m5 and NC?
thank you

 

[blood_magik]

it's down to how many points he has. you can check his record online and the schedule should tell you what the points cut off is for each class.

1.05m is usually open so no points restriction.

 

[HashRouge]

I have nothing helpful to add other than to say he looks like a super pony

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

it's down to how many points he has. you can check his record online and the schedule should tell you what the points cut off is for each class.

1.05m is usually open so no points restriction.

okay thanks for all your help

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

I have nothing helpful to add other than to say he looks like a super pony

thanks he's a very special little man, a bit crazy but the best ones always are

 

[Horsemad12]

Personally for your first BS I would do the 1m class and possibly the 1.05m if that goes well. No point in scaring both of you and you will find BS bigger and more technical that UA.

I would certainly expect to find much wider oxers than the ones in your pictures.

Good luck with what ever you decide.

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

Personally for your first BS I would do the 1m class and possibly the 1.05m if that goes well. No point in scaring both of you and you will find BS bigger and more technical that UA.

I would certainly expect to find much wider oxers than the ones in your pictures.

Good luck with what ever you decide.

Okay thanks for the reply

 

[ljohnsonsj]

Thats a newcomers 1st round at my local venue for the rough width of oxers. they are always square oxers. My horse is 16.2hh for a rough height comparison!

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

Thats a newcomers 1st round at my local venue for the rough width of oxers. they are always square oxers. My horse is 16.2hh for a rough height comparison!

That's really helpful thanks! Don't tend to practice a lot of wide oxers as it's quite hard on them physically and I know he can do it. Because he's an eventer I'm taking him to the gallops, going xc etc and he's doing quite a lot atm so I didn't want to push it. But I'll put up a bit of a course with some wide, square oxers in my lesson on Thursday and see how he copes as I can't expect to go there not having jumped so wide that he won't be the slightest bit phased!!

 

[vam]

Personally for your first BS I would do the 1m class and possibly the 1.05m if that goes well. No point in scaring both of you and you will find BS bigger and more technical that UA.

I would certainly expect to find much wider oxers than the ones in your pictures.

Good luck with what ever you decide.

This. There is nothing wrong in stepping down a class or 2 when first jumping aff, the courses will be built differently and there will be more to think about. You can keep it nice and relaxed for the both of you jumping a level you both are happy and confident at, it will give you more experience with him if you haven't had him long and will set you up better for jumping bigger in the long run.

 

[c.h.i.a.r.a]

This. There is nothing wrong in stepping down a class or 2 when first jumping aff, the courses will be built differently and there will be more to think about. You can keep it nice and relaxed for the both of you jumping a level you both are happy and confident at, it will give you more experience with him if you haven't had him long and will set you up better for jumping bigger in the long run.

Thanks I appreciate your advice

 

[smja]

I went to do the 1m, horse found it all very easy, so entered the newcomers that ran after the 1m.

That way there was no pressure if the 1m didn't go well

 

[Lanky Loll]

Looking at your photo's you're at Wickstead in the 2nd one.. .they tend to build up to height but the oxers won't be square as in height and width and also front poles are usually lower so slightly kinder. In a newcomers they would all be square IYSWIM for a first go BS I would tend to drop down a height from where I've been jumping Unaff and go from there.