Going onto a warmblood from a cob...

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I might be looking for a new horse in the near future, I currently have lovely 15hh cob, foward going but safe, lovely boy who we've had for 4 years (since he was 4) who won't be going anywhere.

I would like to know about any of your warmblood types, not thoroughbreds as I wouldn't have one of them, not brave enough
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Do yours often bolt/kick/stop at jumps/rear/buck etc? I know they are all different but generally are they much more difficult to ride than cobs, or just differently challenging? I would like to do more dressage, show jumping and possibly go on to do some pony club type eventing, nothing huge though, too much of a wuss I think
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So any pointers would be really good - No such thing as enough advice!
 
Every horse is different, just because a horse is a certain breed doesnt mean it will behave a certain way, Ive known 100% bombproof quiet TB's, and dangerous cobs!

I would say assess every horse for what it is.

Obviously some horses are bred a certain way, to jump, elevated paces, speed etc, but with regards to temperment that depends greatly on how they are broken and what expeiences they have.

As a rule of thumb hotbloods, such a TB's can be more fiesty, need regular work and be more spooky, but this is by no means the rule.

As for warmbloods, wel I have a WB x ISH who is a complete angel and has never put a foot wrong, yet my other warmblood was sold by his previous owner because he napped terribly and was a nightmare, so like i said every horse is different!
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This is a bit of 'how long is a piece of string' question. I would presume that warmbloods could do the above just as well as a tb or anyother breed. The worst bucker I have ever ridden was a cob, my TB x Cob tends to stop, wheras I used to ride an aged TB who was a saint, albeit a very speedy one!

I have never ridden a warmblood, although I would like to .
 
I know they are all different, my boy does throw in the odd buck every so often, he will bolt when in the mood but he's not dangerous. I know cobs can be just as bad, but is there more risk with a warmblood than a safe cob? I'll have to make sure the seller is being honest, and take a more experianced rider with me. Thanks for the advice so far
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is there more risk with a warmblood than a safe cob?

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No, anything horse size can hurt you!
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LOL I used to have a welsh cob who was the most evil thing to walk on 4 legs, she was 14.2hh.

now I have Beau who is a 6yr old 17.3hh warmblood,and is a saint and taught my nervous wreck OH to ride from scratch, so again, rather than looking at what breed the horse is, take every horse for what it is.

There are quiet warmbloods out there, and naughty ones, just like with any breeds, so all you can do is try them and try and get as much info as possible out of the owner, like you would with any horse.

also if the horse is a youngster or an older experienced horse makes a difference, as with any breed.

why is it specifically a warmblood you are after?
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Well they are usually not so skittish as thoroughbreds, and they just look so, well put together and made for their job; especially for dressage and eventing. I don't want another cob because on the dressage side of things they are just so hard to bend and get using their bottoms properly, and for jumping they aren't quite so scopey.

My aunt had two warmbloods, really lovely horses and I would like that type. thoroughbreds just don't do it for me, however well behaved lol
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I'll have to squeese future sellers for info then, it's nice to think that moving up onto something bigger won't neccissarily kill me lol!
 
My DWB is so athletic he bungs in the 'not so occasionally' massive bucks, and they are BIG! He does it through excitement, he can jump extra big but has attitude. He is the ultimate jumping, bucking (and occasionally, rearing) machine that needs working nearly everyday. I wouldn't change him for the world, he is so strong yet beautifully put together, just lazy unless jumping is involved! xx
 
Ditto St Bernard - Every horse is different. I have a warmblood who is a complete softy, sometimes behaves more like a pet dog following you round than a horse. But he can still have his moments.

You need to treat each horse as an individual and take it for what it is rather than the breed/type it is.
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Irish Sport Horses are absolutely fab!!!! if i was looking for a horse, i'd go for one in a flash!

i'd say wbs are easier then cobs... a bit more tempermental, but they're less stubborn, less strong and less lazy! (sorry cob owners, i really do love them, but you must admit it's true for most cobbies!
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) i suppose it depends on the individual horse, and sporthorses take a bit of getting used to, but they're not exactly harder to ride then other breeds, just different
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Depends on the warmblood

Our hanoverian mare is a bit of a pig, stubborn and very much a German gun horse!!

Her half brothers which are Selle Francais crosses are very laid back about everything, and generally want to please.

I do find warmbloods can be quite backward thinking compared to TB's. However every horse is individual and its initial training is very important.
 
Any Irish bred horse can be an Irish Sports Horse tbh...On Castle's passport is says that he's an Irish Sports Horse, and he's only 12.2hh!
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All horses are very different, but I'll add my bit to this thread... Castle was my first pony, and he's 12.2hh. He's currently for sale as I am too old for 128s and I have hideously outgrown him
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I bought Ali, who is a 16.1hh Danish Warmblood in June of this year, and they are obviously both VERY different, although Ali has quite a cheeky ponyish attitude at times!
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Ali is definitely not a straightforward horse, and he does have quite a lot of tantrums... any excuse will do for him! But he is a very fun horse once he focuses on things
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He is polite when being led, but loading is a different story! We're overcoming that problem though
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He also gets stressed very easily, and is quite hard to keep weight on. Don't just look specifically for a Warmblood, BUT if you do come across a Warmblood that sounds right for you, go and try it out, it might be the one for you or it might not be, it's worth a try if the horse sounds right for you
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This is my lad -
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(Do excuse the state of me
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depends what warmblood you buy - i have 5 different ones (Hannovarian, oldenburg, belgium, kwpn, danish) and they are all different some laid back - some loony and some very sharp !!

I find most warmbloods to be clever though !!!
 
I've just done the exact same thing!! Haven't looked back
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I've had my 14.2hh Welsh D gelding for 3.5 years but over this year have found that he just wasn't enough, I wanted to do more. So, put him out on loan and now have a lovely 15.3hh Hanoverian mare. She was a SJer in a past life, done a fair bit of dressage I think and is the perfect school mistress for me.

She's very clever, super sensitive and comes with attitude but she's also really affectionate. The plan with her is that she will show me the ropes for dressage and SJing (would have liked to event but I don't think her clicky joints and old injuries would stand up to it which isn't fair on her).

Go for it
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Don’t do it. Went from cob to IDxTB, now back to cob, wouldn’t have anything else now!
Just joking, my sister has the most gorgeous WB, an Oldenburg, (GinaGem) and he is a stunner, he is quite a laid back chap but obviously very powerful and big (17hh and growing) so when he does get spooked it’s a much bigger reaction then I would have on my cob. There is no doubt about it though there are some stunning WBs about and if I was ever going to get something other then a cob it would be a WB, a nice posh black one.
 
really depends on the individual horse. they are usually naturally athletic and pretty powerful (which is good until they use it to try to buck you off!), but i wouldn't take it as a given that they're brave. i've found them much much spookier than idxtbs and tbs.
 
Got a 7/8 TB and a Danish WB. I really went shopping with a Trakehner in mind and tried several but found them all too clever for me, one could have re-wired the house given some thumbs!

The TB is spooky and tense but a complete gentleman so never worries me, the WB is only a baby but very confident for his age and a quick to learn. I think the biggest mistake people make is presuming they are all thick, most of them have quite a lot of TB in them nowdays so are anything but.
 
Thanks everyone for your helpful responses, I'll bear everything said in mind, and your examples of nice horses remind me that whatever my mother says I don't want to spend the rest of my life on cobs, lovely as they are, because I want to do a bit more in the way of bending and not get remarks like 'on the forehand' in every single dressage test I do, however much I work on it
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Hopefully I'll be able to find a nice sweet horse that wont try and kill me when I get on it!
 
I have done exactly this too! I have my welsh D out on loan now as she did her hip in so can only hack,i have a warmblood now (dad-holsteiner) she is stunning and will be a fab comp horse but she is only 4 and v.sharp and spooky.She is also VERY clever so you have to be on the ball all the time or she walks all over you.People say it's cos she's young but i know it's just her personality,it may calm a bit as she gets older but i know she'll be a quirky one. I had a shock though,going from a fairly well behaved welsh to a very powerful,quick thinking bigger horse.I'd think carefully,and make sure you try it out and spend time with it before you buy it so you are happy with it's temperment.
 
what about the welsh sec d that is doing high level dressage... someone posted a pic on here a while ago...

I have a TB, and he is much better at dressage (and safer and nicer) than any of the warmbloods I have seen

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what about the welsh sec d that is doing high level dressage... someone posted a pic on here a while ago...

I have a TB, and he is much better at dressage (and safer and nicer) than any of the warmbloods I have seen

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Agreed - too many people I know have a WB because its fashinable <rolls eyes> they are over horsed and seem to think they are gonna go to the Olympics on it, just cos its a WB...

In my experience the WB's I have worked with have been one of two things - too sharp and clever for their own good, capable of great work but spooky, would buck/rear and scared of their own shadow... hacking out on them was just plain dangerous and brightly coloured jump fillers had mosters behind them..! lol!

The other ones were more to the draught side of their breeding, slow, a bit dim, heavy on their feet - don't get me wrong they could jump beautifully but they weren't the most inspiring of horses.

Unfortunately my previous experience with WB's has put me off them for life.

I'd say go look at horses and try them out in the areas you want them for. I personally think an ISH would be perfect for what your looking for, especially if you want to event.
 
I'm also an ISH fan! Well it doesn't have to be and ISH, just as long as it is from Ireland!
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Irish horses tend to have fantastic temperaments and I think one would be ideal for you.
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We've had a few warmbloods and they have had more quirks than the Irish ones.
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I have done the opposite, after years of TBs and WBs have gone to cobs - I have a lovely gypsy cob who is going to be a great all rounder like the last cob mare I had.

Hann x TBs - nearly all the ones I have known bar one have been difficult. My mare was this breed and she was fantastic in the stable but could be a real challenge to ride - and this was with professional trainers so it was not just my riding that was the problem.

A lot of WBs nowdays seem to have a lot of TB in them and are more competition orientated rather than something you can compete and then hack and have fun with.
 
I know one angelic TB and also a novice ride but quirky WB and my Welshy is anything but your stereotypical cob in most ways. I would love a ISH
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I think each horse needs to be judge on it's individual merits...
 
Moly I think it would be a good idea for you to ride a variety of horses, ride some different warmbloods, somehave very big paces,see if you find it comfortable, see if you like having that extra power.
Warmbloods can look impressive,espec if they have elevated powerful paces, but sometimes keeping that power contained can be harder than not having it, again it all depends on the horse!
 
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