Going to see

[eahotson]

A Gypsy Cob on Friday.She looks nice on the photos, said to be ride and drive and very quiet.Instructor is coming with me!!!!!! If we like what we see I can have her on a months loan to try her and we will try her.Only problem is she is very flat backed. I am going to take my saddle with me to try but don't think it will fit her even as a temporary measure.Anyone know if I can rent a treeless?

 

[GrassChop]

Does she not have any tack you can borrow?

 

[paddi22]

I wouldn't be keen on trying an unfitted saddle on a horse I didn't know. the buyers would surely have a saddle for her? or is she being sold as unbroken for riding?

 

[eahotson]

I wouldn't be keen on trying an unfitted saddle on a horse I didn't know. the buyers would surely have a saddle for her? or is she being sold as unbroken for riding?

No she is broken to ride and drive and he says he will get a saddle for us to try her with. She is,all other things being equal,coming back with us for a months trial so that is why I am taking the saddle down with me.Otherwise I am hoping to raid the yard owners tack room and see if she has anything.He says she is very broad and flat backed.I obviously don't want to buy another saddle until I know I am going to buy her.

 

[eahotson]

Does she not have any tack you can borrow?

I shall try. He says his treeless is with a friend but he will get one for us for the day.He may lend us that if I threaten to leave her there otherwise!!

 

[Ossy2]

I wouldn’t automatically assume a treeless will fit just because it’s treeless, they still need fitting too. Is the horse not in work now? Is the seller having the horse ridden before you arrive? Make sure you get shown her ridden before you get on to help keep yourself safe. I know she’s a cob but they can be sharp too.
I’d ask the seller to make sure the viewing is set up properly to allow the horse to be viewed properly being ridden and go from there.

 

[splashgirl45]

dont forget to get a vetting done by a vet of your choice not the sellers and have it done before she leaves her yard so you and the owner know if there are any problems

 

[eahotson]

I wouldn’t automatically assume a treeless will fit just because it’s treeless, they still need fitting too. Is the horse not in work now? Is the seller having the horse ridden before you arrive? Make sure you get shown her ridden before you get on to help keep yourself safe. I know she’s a cob but they can be sharp too.
I’d ask the seller to make sure the viewing is set up properly to allow the horse to be viewed properly being ridden and go from there.

Taking very good instructor with me.No I don't see treeless as a cure all just as a very temporary measure.

 

[eahotson]

dont forget to get a vetting done by a vet of your choice not the sellers and have it done before she leaves her yard so you and the owner know if there are any problems

Taking instructor (very experienced) with me.IF I like what I see I was going to have her vetted by my own vet when I bring her back.Will discuss this though with seller.

 

[ycbm]

I'm afraid I think there are very big alarm bells in her still being available to buy if you aren't going until Friday. I also can't understand in this market why he will let you have her on a month's trial, but if she's still there on Friday that sounds like an ideal situation for you. I would include a pregnancy test in your vetting. I hope you like her.
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[Goldenstar]

Do not put your own saddle on horse you are trying with a view to buying , don’t go there .

 

[Birker2020]

No she is broken to ride and drive and he says he will get a saddle for us to try her with. She is,all other things being equal,coming back with us for a months trial so that is why I am taking the saddle down with me.Otherwise I am hoping to raid the yard owners tack room and see if she has anything.He says she is very broad and flat backed.I obviously don't want to buy another saddle until I know I am going to buy her.

Please make sure you see someone else ride her first before you even put your foot in the stirrup. The words "he will get a saddle for us to try" sends chills up my spine.

Totally different type of horse/situation but my friend went to try a horse, the lady went to mount it from the mounting block, it either reared or bombed off with her, forget which and she was knocked out.

Friend had to call an ambulance but literally hadn't a clue where she was, so had to run for sellers hubby to get postcode/exact location. The lady later rang my friend and said that the horse had never shown any tendencies with that behaviour before and had she have known the horse was like that she wouldn't have even attempted to get on it which my friend completely believed, after all why would you?

Not trying to put the fear of God in you but NEVER get on a strange horse first that you are going to view. The very best of luck at your viewing, I know how hard it is, I've been looking for 3 months now.

 

[paddi22]

yeah I'd be SO wary. if you are selling a horse as broken and riding, then surely they'd have a saddle. the fact they don't means no-one is regularly riding the horse. Personally even as an experienced person, I would never sit up on a horse without seeing someone else ride it first. I think your instructor would be bonkers to. You don't know what saddle will be going on it, it could fit badly, the horse could buck and someone could get injured.

if the seller can't have a situation where the horse is in in fitting tack with a rider to show it, then it should be sold as 'from field' and the price reflect that.

 

[eahotson]

I'm afraid I think there are very big alarm bells in her still being available to buy if you aren't going until Friday. I also can't understand in this market why he will let you have her on a month's trial, but if she's still there on Friday that sounds like an ideal situation for you. I would include a pregnancy test in your vetting. I hope you like her.
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She hasn't been advertised as far as I know,she comes by word of mouth.The pregnancy test is an EXCELLENT idea,I never thought of that,not used to buying mares.He keeps saying she is very big.Oh dear.The person who put me in touch breeds very nice gypsy cobs herself but she only has youngsters..Bet she is pregnant.

 

[eahotson]

yeah I'd be SO wary. if you are selling a horse as broken and riding, then surely they'd have a saddle. the fact they don't means no-one is regularly riding the horse. Personally even as an experienced person, I would never sit up on a horse without seeing someone else ride it first. I think your instructor would be bonkers to. You don't know what saddle will be going on it, it could fit badly, the horse could buck and someone could get injured.

if the seller can't have a situation where the horse is in in fitting tack with a rider to show it, then it should be sold as 'from field' and the price reflect that.

trust me when I say that neither my instructor or myself will be first up!!! He has promised to find a saddle to try her.

 

[eahotson]

Please make sure you see someone else ride her first before you even put your foot in the stirrup. The words "he will get a saddle for us to try" sends chills up my spine.

Totally different type of horse/situation but my friend went to try a horse, the lady went to mount it from the mounting block, it either reared or bombed off with her, forget which and she was knocked out.

Friend had to call an ambulance but literally hadn't a clue where she was, so had to run for sellers hubby to get postcode/exact location. The lady later rang my friend and said that the horse had never shown any tendencies with that behaviour before and had she have known the horse was like that she wouldn't have even attempted to get on it which my friend completely believed, after all why would you?

Not trying to put the fear of God in you but NEVER get on a strange horse first that you are going to view. The very best of luck at your viewing, I know how hard it is, I've been looking for 3 months now.

Neither myself not my instructor will be first up.Trust me.We will walk away before that.

 

[eahotson]

Do not put your own saddle on horse you are trying with a view to buying , don’t go there .

just wanted to see if I fitted that's all.Don't think it will.

 

[southerncomfort]

trust me when I say that neither my instructor or myself will be first up!!! He has promised to find a saddle to try her.

But why doesn't the horse have its own saddle if its ridden?

Really sorry but I also have alarm bells ringing here.

It sounds to me like a driving pony that's been sat on a couple of times, or had a very basic backing.

Please tread very carefully!

 

[PSD]

Did you get my pm about the cob I sent?

 

[eahotson]

Did you get my pm about the cob I sent?

yes She is lovely but too young and green for me.

 

[PSD]

yes She is lovely but too young and green for me.

Ahh that’s a shame. I hope your viewing goes well

 

[I'm Dun]

But why doesn't the horse have its own saddle if its ridden?

Really sorry but I also have alarm bells ringing here.

It sounds to me like a driving pony that's been sat on a couple of times, or had a very basic backing.

Please tread very carefully!

Indeed. Mine went on trial but I didnt advertise that and was very, very, very, very picky about who even viewed her never mind anything else. If anyone had rocked up with a saddle they would have been sent on there way. She sold to the first person to view but I was inundated. And this was a horse with a medical issue, and she wasnt cheap even taking that into account. I could have sold her unseen within hours of the ad going up.

 

[eahotson]

And again.If the horse comes home with me she will need a saddle.I don't want to buy a new one until I am sure that I want to buy.I was going to "Rock Up" with my own just to see if it will fit.I do not think it will.I expect the seller to produce a saddle to try.My back up is my livery hard owners tack room.She has many saddles. yes she as agreed.I am a good owner and put the welfare of my horse high on my agenda.I am picky about saddles,never really trust the saddle coming from the seller as experience has shown me that many people are not.If I buy her she will have a purpose made saddle of her own.OK.

 

[eahotson]

Ahh that’s a shame. I hope your viewing goes well

Thank you.

 

[eahotson]

Indeed. Mine went on trial but I didnt advertise that and was very, very, very, very picky about who even viewed her never mind anything else. If anyone had rocked up with a saddle they would have been sent on there way. She sold to the first person to view but I was inundated. And this was a horse with a medical issue, and she wasnt cheap even taking that into account. I could have sold her unseen within hours of the ad going up.

Right.For the last time. I am going to "Rock Up" with my own saddle because, if I take her back with me I will need a saddle to ride on.The place I am buying from isn't the sort of place that will supply me with one.I do expect the seller to provide a saddle on the day.My back up plan if my current saddle does not fit is to raid the livery yard owners tack room (with her permission of course). I am a good owner.I am very picky about saddles and saddle fit which anyone who knows me will verify.I have had saddles come with horses in the past that have been a disaster.If I do like her and buy her she will have a custom made saddle of her own.

 

[southerncomfort]

Er....I think you misunderstood my post. I never mentioned your saddle.

I was wondering why, if the cob is a ridden cob, it doesn't have a regular saddle of its own. Why does the seller have to try and find one?

Anyway, hope it works out for you.

 

[FestiveFuzz]

I don’t want to rain on your parade as I know how exciting it is when you think you’ve found the right horse, but I agree with previous posts that there’s a few red flags here.

A lot has been covered already, but I think the biggest one for me is that the owner is happy to send her off for a month to an unknown person without providing well-fitted tack. These aren’t the actions of someone trying to set the mare up for success in her new home, nor someone who seems particularly fussed about her well-being.

That’s not a dig at you in the slightest but if this were one of mine I’d want to know it was being ridden in tack that fit, not potentially running the risk of the mare being ridden in ill-fitting tack and returning injured or with issues a month later.

I really hope it works out for you, but please go in with your eyes open and if there’s any niggles just walk away.

 

[eahotson]

The horse isn't coming for what a lot of people would consider an orthodox background.I understand that.I am going with my eyes open and both instructor and I have high levels of self protection built in.We will proceed with caution and walk away if we are not happy.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

The horse isn't coming for what a lot of people would consider an orthodox background.I understand that.I am going with my eyes open and both instructor and I have high levels of self protection built in.We will proceed with caution and walk away if we are not happy.

Travellers?

 

[eahotson]

Travellers?

Yes.