Grey or not? - Results are in!

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For those who followed this thread - http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=619796
about my concerns about kasper going grey, here is the result.....

Kasper is NEGATIVE for grey!
:D

Must admit I am relieved, I purposely ruled greys out of my search due to the risk of melanomas (i've had enough of skin conditions!), so glad Kasper wont be going grey.

I have settled on the opinion that he is silver bucksin varnish roan blanket appaloosa...(bit more of a mouthful than just bay or black!)
 
Grey is easy to avoid in a search. If either parent is not grey said offspring will not be grey. It's that simple. I'm another that will not have a grey. So part of my research would have to be parents. No need to worry about grandparents and so on. I had a High Chaparral filly I bred one time that was a maximum rabicano with sabino thrown in. When shedding her foal coat she was in fact looking grey. I had a sale selector out looking at yearlings and he said definitely grey. I said genetic impossibility. He said if I looked I'd see grey in the pedigree. No, you are wrong. Anyway I did call Weatherby's to make sure my DNA was who it should have been. At any rate she was cool looking. Bright bay head and legs but her whole body was bay roan looking except it wasn't roan. Connemara's confuse me with the grey dun color. It has been explained but I don't get it. To me they're either grey or dun or more specifically buckskin. That's like calling another grey grey chestunt or grey bay.

At any rate I drifted. Sorry. Your new boy seems quite cool.

Terri
 
Oh geez just saw the appaloosa in there. They can be such weird colors when you test them genetically. At any rate he'll stand out in a crowd for sure and what an interesting color.

Terri
 
My very pale dapple grey (once very dark) New Forest has a dark skin tone under his coat, no pink skin anywhere. His mane & tail, once black, are now a silvery white. Also his feet are as tough as old boots. He is 12 now & never had any problems. Not all greys are a problem waiting to happen, at least not in my experience (a little limited I admit). I wouldn't dismiss a grey out of hand just because of its colour.
 
My very pale dapple grey (once very dark) New Forest has a dark skin tone under his coat, no pink skin anywhere. His mane & tail, once black, are now a silvery white. Also his feet are as tough as old boots. He is 12 now & never had any problems. Not all greys are a problem waiting to happen, at least not in my experience (a little limited I admit). I wouldn't dismiss a grey out of hand just because of its colour.

I have read a lot about it and research suggest melanomas are present in 80% of grey horses. They occur when the pigment that leeches from the coat collects under the skin.
After having a big battle with sarcoids with my previous horse I didnt want to have to worry about melanomas. So sadly greys had to be dismissed simply because of their colour.
 
I'm glad that he wont grey out, he's a very unusual colour. I'm still wondering if there are two dilution genes at work as his 'black' is not black.

Now we just need to see what the LP does to his coat... will he varnish? Ooooh exciting. :)
 
I'm glad that he wont grey out, he's a very unusual colour. I'm still wondering if there are two dilution genes at work as his 'black' is not black.

Now we just need to see what the LP does to his coat... will he varnish? Ooooh exciting. :)

Yes quite - are you going to get him tested for anything else PMP?
 
Yes quite - are you going to get him tested for anything else PMP?

Not at the moment, money is tight so I cant jusitfy spending it on colour tests. I only did the grey one so i knew if i was expecting melanomas or not.

I think he is definitely homozygous for LP, so am hoping no impaired night vision.

Faracat - was it that he may have cream and silver dilutions to the buckskin base colour?
 
Silver will dilute black to brown, so it's a possibility.

He really does look like he has one copy of cream for certain.

I don't think he has champagne as his skin colour looks wrong for that gene to be present.
 
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