Gut balancer recommendations please!

[Ellietotz]

I may be looking for something that doesn't exist here but I'm hoping to find a gut balancer that has no alfalfa in, maintains healthy PH levels, helps growth of good bacteria, binds mycotoxins and gets rid of harmful bacteria etc to support fore and hind gut on a day to day basis and protects through any stressful situations or feed changes etc.

Any suggestions?

 

[HappyHollyDays]

Are you trying to avoid Alfalfa for a specific reason? I only ask as one of mine goes nuts if it's in feed of any kind but he is fine on Protexin.

 

[Ellietotz]

Are you trying to avoid Alfalfa for a specific reason? I only ask as one of mine goes nuts if it's in feed of any kind but he is fine on Protexin.

Yes, she went nuts on alfalfa before!

 

[HBB]

Have you had a look at BIO MOS and Mycosorb A+ to see if they would be suitable?

 

[Leo Walker]

Yes, she went nuts on alfalfa before!

but shes completely fine on protexin as shes had it in pink mash?

 

[Ellietotz]

but shes completely fine on protexin as shes had it in pink mash?

She was still spooky on the pink mash too, just worse when it's an alfalfa based chaff which I discovered!

 

[Ellietotz]

Have you had a look at BIO MOS and Mycosorb A+ to see if they would be suitable?

They both sound round about what I'm after. Would you need the mycosorb with the BIO MOS though? Only thing I can't find with it is hindgut support unless I'm missing it!

 

[Meredith]

Not sure but does this meet your needs.

https://www.horsesupplementsdirect.co.uk/products/nutri-gut-new-pre-and-pro-biotic

 

[Ellietotz]

Not sure but does this meet your needs.

https://www.horsesupplementsdirect.co.uk/products/nutri-gut-new-pre-and-pro-biotic

That does sound good... I've just seen that Topspec have a digestive supplement as well which sounds good but no ingredient list! I'm stuck whether to just use Bio Mos now or not too! It's a minefield.

 

[Leo Walker]

I saw this yesterday in the feed shop:

https://www.dodsonandhorrell.com/product/ulcer-sensitive-balancer

 

[Cowpony]

Have you looked at Equinox original? My spooky mare is much more chilled on this.

 

[Ellietotz]

I saw this yesterday in the feed shop:

https://www.dodsonandhorrell.com/product/ulcer-sensitive-balancer

Sounded amazing but alfalfa!

 

[Ellietotz]

Have you looked at Equinox original? My spooky mare is much more chilled on this.

This does actually sound really good. I just don't understand how one strain of yeast can do all of that! I'm being picky!

 

[flying_high]

I saw this yesterday in the feed shop:

https://www.dodsonandhorrell.com/product/ulcer-sensitive-balancer

The narrative sounds great. But not so keen on the main ingredients. In order with biggest amounts first.

Dehulled soya bean meal, Wheatfeed, Distiller's wheat grains, Unmolassed sugar beet, Calcium carbonate, Liquorice root (4.0%), Full fat linseed, Alfalfa, Pumpkin seeds (2.0%), Fructose oligosaccharides (2.0%), Monocalcium phosphate, Mannan oligosaccharides (1.5%), Comfrey (1.2%), Sodium chloride, Cane molasses, Magnesium oxide, Mixture of: Blackcurrant, Kale, Spinach, Beetroot, Rosemary, Rosehip, Pomegranate (0.4%)

So the largest 3 ingredients are Dehulled soya bean meal, Wheatfeed, Distiller's wheat grains!!!! Urghhh

 

[Leo Walker]

Im not keen on processed stuff either but it doesnt seem to bad. Wheatfeed isnt a hit with me but soya I dont mind. Mine has pinkmash and looks amazing on it. I guess its all relative as it contains such small amounts.

 

[flying_high]

Im not keen on processed stuff either but it doesnt seem to bad. Wheatfeed isnt a hit with me but soya I dont mind. Mine has pinkmash and looks amazing on it. I guess its all relative as it contains such small amounts.

But IS it such small amounts, if it is the main 3 ingredients listed in a 20kg sack of balancer that are feeding 100g/100kg bodyweight per day. So feeding 500gm grams to the average horse?

I prefer to avoid Soya, wheatfeed, and wheat grains.

 

[Ellietotz]

But IS it such small amounts, if it is the main 3 ingredients listed in a 20kg sack of balancer that are feeding 100g/100kg bodyweight per day. So feeding 500gm grams to the average horse?

I prefer to avoid Soya, wheatfeed, and wheat grains.

The ingredients put me off a bit too, the description of it initially though was very persuading! So far, I have Science Supplements Gut Balancer, Readysupp Digestive Care, BIO MOS and SNP Nutri-Gut that are potential candidates. I just don't know which one!

 

[Ellietotz]

Okay so me being my normal obsessive-self, this is what I've come up with:

Readysupp Digestive Care
Contains: MOS, FOS, Live Yeasts, Slippery Elm, Linseed
£100 90 day supply

Nutri-Gut
Contains: MOS, FOS, Yeasacc, Sepiolite Clay
£52.50 60 day supply

BIO-MOS Pro Earth
£14.99 100 day supply

Science Supplements Gut Balancer
Contains: Pre/Probiotics, MOS, betaglucans
£44.99 60 day supply

Which would you go for? :lol:

 

[flying_high]

Okay so me being my normal obsessive-self, this is what I've come up with:

Readysupp Digestive Care
Contains: MOS, FOS, Live Yeasts, Slippery Elm, Linseed
£100 90 day supply

Nutri-Gut
Contains: MOS, FOS, Yeasacc, Sepiolite Clay
£52.50 60 day supply

BIO-MOS Pro Earth
£14.99 100 day supply

Science Supplements Gut Balancer
Contains: Pre/Probiotics, MOS, betaglucans
£44.99 60 day supply

Which would you go for? :lol:

I chose



Science Supplements Gut Balancer
Contains: Pre/Probiotics, MOS, betaglucans
£44.99 60 day supply
Read more at http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/foru...mmendations-please!/page2#qcjkWW6kc0TFbFrC.99

To support the hind gut of my ulcer horse through medication and coming off medication. Don't feed anymore.

 

[Ellietotz]

I chose



Science Supplements Gut Balancer
Contains: Pre/Probiotics, MOS, betaglucans
£44.99 60 day supply
Read more at http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/foru...mmendations-please!/page2#qcjkWW6kc0TFbFrC.99

To support the hind gut of my ulcer horse through medication and coming off medication. Don't feed anymore.

Did it work?

 

[flying_high]

Did it work?

My horse scoped clear of ulcers and returned to normal work. So think so.

 

[PoppyAnderson]

How about something like this from thunderbrooks https://thunderbrook.co.uk/shop/digestive-supplements/gut-restore/

 

[Ellietotz]

How about something like this from thunderbrooks https://thunderbrook.co.uk/shop/digestive-supplements/gut-restore/

I liked that but I wanted something that binds bad bacteria and removes it too!

 

[Leo Walker]

But IS it such small amounts, if it is the main 3 ingredients listed in a 20kg sack of balancer that are feeding 100g/100kg bodyweight per day. So feeding 500gm grams to the average horse?

I prefer to avoid Soya, wheatfeed, and wheat grains.

So probably a 100gms of each, compared to 10kgs of grass/hay a day. Its a drop in the ocean. Wheat feed is pretty common as a filler unfortunately. The OP feeds fast fibre so I cant imagine a small amount of wheat feed would be a deal breaker.

 

[jgmbng]

I have both of mine on Equimins Pro-bio. No alfalfa (as far as I am aware) but no toxin binder in it either. Maybe this could be added separately ? The ponies look really well on this and it's reasonably priced.

 

[Ellietotz]

So probably a 100gms of each, compared to 10kgs of grass/hay a day. Its a drop in the ocean. Wheat feed is pretty common as a filler unfortunately. The OP feeds fast fibre so I cant imagine a small amount of wheat feed would be a deal breaker.

The fillers wouldn't put me off really but unfortunately, it has alfalfa anyway!

 

[Ellietotz]

I have both of mine on Equimins Pro-bio. No alfalfa (as far as I am aware) but no toxin binder in it either. Maybe this could be added separately ? The ponies look really well on this and it's reasonably priced.

That looks good... the bio mos in it is a toxin binder though isn't it?

 

[WelshD]

Zeolite may be worth a look, a few brands now sell this quite cheaply

 

[Ellietotz]

Zeolite may be worth a look, a few brands now sell this quite cheaply

That is mostly a binder isn't it? Although it sounds good

 

[Ellietotz]

I am so stuck on what one to go for, it's driving me mad! Isn't mycosorb the same as bio mos apart from it just doesn't feed the good bacteria? Or am I better to go for something that has a mix of MOS and yeasacc in?