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I had a timely and very welcome distraction from Ginny and her problems in the form of a horsemanship clinic over the weekend with Amber. I have no interest in Western riding but I do like the overall ethos of Buck Brannaman/Mark Rashid/Guy Robertson etc who all seem to come from a ranch background and all seem to work much more with the horse's mind than the trainers I usually use who focus on the technical aspects more. Which I also love but this just adds something else I think.

The overall aim of the weekend was to work on confidence (the horse's confidence in you and in general), body control (being able to control the horse's body and life so you can move in any direction at any gait or speed) and purpose: motivating the horse.

We did 4 session which all aimed to achieve 1 or more of those aims above. Session 1 was groundwork and that was a lot about leadership which builds confidence. Session 2 was ridden in the arena and was about body control. It was incredibly precise: eg cue the horse to stop as the front inside foot leaves the ground and that foot should then land and stop. The transition should be both instant and smooth. Another good exercise were 2 trotting poles parallel to each other a horse's width apart over X. Trot a figure 8 passing through the poles each time in walk. You needed to be completely straight through the poles then change bend as you left the poles. Smooth and instant transitions to walk as you enter the poles and back to trot as you leave. The repeat with canter-walk transitions. And if your horse starts anticipating the left lead (for example) go right. Then it was canter transitions in a straight line at a cone choosing the lead each time. Basically complete control over hindquarters, ribs, shoulders, head and neck, gait and speed!

Session 3 was with obstacles - putting the precise body control into practice with things like bending in and out of cones, side passing over things etc. This began to build the horse's sense of purpose. Ie the horse recognising these movements aren't random or pointless - there is a job to do. And finally cow working to further build the sense of purpose.

Throughout it all one thing I noticed was how often the horse is rewarded in this style of riding. In my normal schooling I might let her have a long rein every 10 minutes or so after some good work so she'd get a full release 2-3 times a session. But in this work we were releasing fully every few seconds at first for any new request which seemed to help her learn much quicker and to be in a more positive frame of mind.

Amber has only seen cows once when we were followed by them on a hack and they freaked her out but I think all the previous work over the weekend meant she was curious not fearful, confident in me and task focused! So she was brilliant. Went into a herd, cut one out, guided it into the arena and then in a team with another horse we were guiding it round cones in a figure of 8 and finally penning it. If it made a break back to the herd Amber had to canter after it to head it back and she totally got it! She was alert, focused, willing. A lot of fun.

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Looks like great fun and I think the horses do enjoy having a reason to do things :) I would love to go on one of his clinics but I just haven't been able to fit it in this year and I really need to upgrade my trailer before we venture that far.
 
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Great report! I am booked onto the horsemanship week there in a couple of weeks. Little Finn will be learning loads of stuff with me, I hope!
 

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Looks like great fun and I think the horses do enjoy having a reason to do things :) I would love to go on one of his clinics but I just haven't been able to fit it in this year and I really need to upgrade my trailer before we venture that far.

I really recommend it. He was fab and the whole set up was reallly relaxed.
 

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Great report! I am booked onto the horsemanship week there in a couple of weeks. Little Finn will be learning loads of stuff with me, I hope!

I am envious. I'd love to do a full week. There was so much to take in and it will take a bit of time to process it all. But another thing I liked was a focus on trying to set things up for succes so the horse felt good about what we were doing. A simple example is that when we went into the obstcale field Amber was a bit nappy. Nothing major and had I got firmer with her she would have willingly walked down to the 'scary' end but Guy said that mentally she would have been distracted by and aware of the gate. So we worked down by the gate but worked quite hard and as she moved away from the gate I'd just relax and let her rest and as she turned back towards the gate I'd suddenly find some urgent task we needed to do and 'hustle' her and it really did not take long before she began to be less keen on the gate. Or heading towards it. It's kid-ology really.After that we could go up to the other end and play around the obstacles and the gate was no longer acting as a magnet for her mind and shoulders! I can relate that to dressage tests where she is more or less obediebt but does tend to lean, glance or drift out towards the warm up arena. She complies but mentally she's out there with the other horses which affcects her performance. So it's more about finding a way round that or 'making your idea her idea' rather than just insisting she does what you want.
 

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I did some work with Guy with the Jay Man, just a couple of private lessons. I also recommended him to some clients with loading issues (used to do that myself but TBH as I got older I did not want to do that any more - and Guy does it better anyway!).

I am looking forward to it. Finn is new to me and only just 5, we have not done any competition yet so after the clinic I think we will be dressaging pretty much straight away.
 

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Sounds very interesting. I like the way you dealt with nappyness.

I love the idea of giving them a purpose. I've found that weaving around barrels when working on bend makes more sense to them than the traditional schooling exercises.

I would love to cut cows! Amber looks so determined in the 2nd picture:lol:
 

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Giving them a purpose just makes sense. I have always had an issue with Amber returning to calmer work after faster work. After a canter she anticipates the next one and jogs, is hard against the hand etc. So the first canter in a dressage test is fine but the 2nd.....
I have worked on this with schooling exercises and she is improving but had a long way to go on that. But the weekend made a huge difference.

Guy talks about dialling up and dialling down the life in the horse. The horse should go from calm to full effort to calm again in a heartbeat.

When working a cow you have to go from steady steady one step at a time edging the calf towards the pen. But if the calf makes a break for the herd Amber had to follow fast and head it off before it reached its buddies. Then go straight back to steady steady steady one step at a time edging the calf towards the pen.

As a schooling exercise Amber would not have done it but in cow work she was great. And it was effortless- I just knew what I needed her to do and that clarity and purpose made the work clear and purposeful for her I guess because she was fully focused and obedient.
 

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What a fantastic report of a brilliant clinic.

Back in the dark ages I worked on cattle stations in the Northern Territory and got bitten by (amongst lots of other horrible critters!) the western/quarter horse/cattle work bug. Working cattle out there was amazing and like you said the dial up/dial down is the best feeling. I sneakily liked it when a beast blew out the herd so that I could chase after it and bring it back in.

I've seen a few cattle clinics start to pop up and now there's even a lady running some at the very north of England/Scottish borders so even better.

Attending a Guy clinic is on my wishlist now that I've finally got transport sorted.

So nice to read a report from something a bit different, thanks for sharing :)
 

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We did our clinic last week, 5 days of it! I am having a lazy day to process it all.

I would thoroughly recommend it. We worked my horse at liberty, I spent a long time simply holding her, watching others (my choice - she is not as fit as she could have been), we improved our balance and suppleness, went through water, over a bridge, on a see saw, u and down a bank, over a ditch... We moved cows, learned to cut on a flag, even had a go at cutting. I had a go at roping, she was not quite ready to actually rope a cow, although the cow was obligingly standing right there. I did rope the pretend cow from the floor though.


I went knowing I needed to go, but not knowing what I needed... I found I needed to get out of my head (as in not think too much) and to enjoy my horse, and ride her like I stole her (as in - don't be too precious).


Great clinic, highly recommended.
 
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Glad you had a good time! I really want to go again. I really liked Guy - he was very encouraging and helpful and his approach makes a lot of sense to me x
 

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Glad you had a good time! I really want to go again. I really liked Guy - he was very encouraging and helpful and his approach makes a lot of sense to me x

We are only a 1/2 hour box ride away so I hope to go do a one hour private lesson once a month or so. It will give me time to work at stuff. Are you nearby? If you were, maybe we could do 2 hours on one day, with 2 of us???

Give a PM if you would be interested.

ETA - obligatory photo!

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Ooh where was that? Sounds awesome!

I think it was somewhere near Brighton? It was on the Facebook page. I think they did schooling on the beach and splashing in the sea.

ETA...

[video]https://www.facebook.com/guyrobertsonhorsemanship/videos/1850467005262612/?t=0[/video]

A bit far away for ,e, but we do have some closer horse-friendly beaches, so if he does one there we will be there with bells on!
 
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I am seriously envious of the cow cutting. I really want to do some of that with my little mare.

Sounds like a couple of very good clinics for you both.
 

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This is making me so jealous! I'm loving these reports though (where is yours JFTD ;) )

I haven't worked cattle since the dark ages of working in Australia and the only cattle stuff in the UK used to be WHAGB way down in Kent I think. It's so good to see so many more clinics and cattle days popping up. I can't wait to get out and about with my QH
 
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