Gypsy Cob cross what?????

[JoBo]

I was told by someone who breeds top class Gypsy Cobs that Bodey is a cross as his head is too fine (he certainly has the Cob barrel). In fact he was a bit offended that I dared to call my Cob a Gypsy Cob, whoops.

So as I’m a bit bored, what do you think Bodey could be crossed with? I know he came out of a field filled with all sorts of Gypsy horses. It doesn’t really matter but just wondered.

Here some photos:

Thanks,
Jo

 

[Charlie007]

Not sure what crossed with but he is stunning!!

 

[JoBo]

Thank you, I know I’m a bit biased but he is a dude!

 

[bex1984]

I think maybe the fact that his face is clipped out makes it look finer if that makes sense? I think I read somewhere that a small head is more correct on gypsy cobs. You've got pics of hairy bodey haven't you? dis he still look fine when he had his cobby beard?

 

[JoBo]

Yes makes perfect sense! This is Bodey with hair, he was only 3 here though so looks very baby.

What do you think? It doesn’t really matter as could be part mule for all I care/know, as he does everything and more that I want.

 

[Guinness]

I also think its to do with him being clipped. I have a gypsy cob (from Appleby) and he looks very pretty when hes clipped, in fact I think he may have a bit of welsh in him somewhere along the line as he also has very welsh hair!:

But does actually have a big cob head when hes not!

Ps Bodey was sooooooo cute as a baby!!! Wish I had some pictures of mine as a baby

 

[PaintboxEDT]

my boy is gypsy cross welsh but he is only 18 months so you couldnt tell either way,perhaps bodey is part welsh ?

 

[golddustsara]

Well..... I think he is of the rare gorgeous coblet breed whose strength, stamina and manly good looks are the subject of much envy.

I think he just looks finer as his head is clipped but he may have some welsh thrown in there.

 

[JoBo]

Part Welsh would be cool, I love Welshies! Thank you!

 

[Carsmore]

he is beautiful! My moneys on Cob x standardbred. Ive had 3 of them and he is similar.

 

[JoBo]

Ummm, Standardbred, now that is different and not something I had thought about! This is quite fun, wondering. I wish I had known his parents, oh well.

 

[Taffster]

I think you have a cob dont think its crossed with anything myself,especially in the baby picture he has typical cob legs and slightly roman nose - Maybe he is more irish cob but i personally cant see any welsh in there.
By the way the 2nd picture likes like he has a real extended trot in him, hes super!

 

[JoBo]

Just a cob then, that’s fine with me, that’s what I call him anyway! Thanks, we won our first Novice that day. Just need to get the back end extending as much as the front, he, he!

 

[HayleyandBob]

O this is interesting i always thought Bob was a gypsy cob but now im not so sure !

P.s. Bodey was such a cute baby !

 

[finefeathers1]

Oh he is stunner, I have always wanted a smart piebald cob. His head is similar to my fat boy's head. He is pure irish through and through though.

 

[The_snoopster]

My skewbald cob mare came from the sales in ireland and looks very similar she,s 20 now and as had a few foals so is not as toned as yours.
Dont know her parentage either, so i just say she is a irish cob, like you if she was part mule i would still think she,s the best.

 

[twisteddiamond]

this is the gypsy cob breed standard (taken from the GCDHA):
Breed Standard

Size

Gypsy Cobs can be any size and may be of the pony, cob or horse variety.

General Appearance
The over all appearance of a Gypsy Cob should give the impression of intelligence, kindness, strength and agility. They should be of good bone, either medium weight or heavy weight, be well muscled, with a sturdy body, kind expression and abundant hair.

Head
The head should be in proportion to the body, neither too large nor too small, with broad forehead, generous jaw, square muzzle and even bite. The ears should be neat and well set on. The eyes should be large and set well apart with an intelligent, kind expression.

Neck
The neck should be slightly arched, well muscled, clean through the throat, not too short and tie in well at the shoulder and withers.

Chest
The chest should be broad with ample muscle. The muscle along the bottom of the chest should appear in an inverted “V” shape as it ties into the forearm.

Shoulders
The shoulders should be deep, powerful and well sloped.

Withers
Withers should be average in height, not too high, with a good cover of muscle.

Back
The back should be short, well muscled and tie in strongly at the loin.

Barrel
The barrel should be deep with well sprung ribs and a solid covering of muscle. The flank should be as deep as the girth.

Legs
The legs should be set well under the body, straight, clean and with plenty of dense, flat bone. Forearms and gaskins should be well muscled.

Hindquarters
Smooth and rounded across the croup, long hip with wide pelvis and well muscled buttocks.

Hair
Mane and tail should be long and thick. Abundant feather starting at the knees and hocks, preferably with hair running down the front of the leg as well as the back. Feather may be straight or curling and should cover the hoof.

Color
Gypsy Cobs may be any color, either solid or colored.

Disposition
The Gypsy Cob should be, above all else, a kind and willing partner. It should display an intelligent character and docile temperament.

no idea what he could be crossed with, but the chesnut in my sig is irish/gypsy cob x standardbred

 

[competitiondiva]

OK now I'm confused, what is the difference please between gyspy cob, an irish cob and a coloured cob???!!! To me they are all the same a type not a breed!!!

Gypsy cobs commonly have welsh blood in them and other native blood, but are referred to as gypsy cob not a gypsy cob cross welsh??!

I suppose the only time I'd refer to a horse being gyspy cross welsh is if the horse was WPB registered therefore it being a breed crossed with something else???

Please do correct me if I'm wrong..........

 

[JoBo]

Now I don’t think this can be said of Bodey, just not enough hair even when hairy:
Abundant feather starting at the knees and hocks, preferably with hair running down the front of the leg as well as the back.

But he is certainly this:
The Gypsy Cob should be, above all else, a kind and willing partner. It should display an intelligent character and docile temperament

Thanks that is very interesting!

 

[JoBo]

Oh competitiondiva, I have no idea, and am even more confused then you! Right that’s it Bodey is just a cob!

 

[twisteddiamond]

What's the difference between a traditional gypsy horse and an "Irish Cob", or a "Gypsy Vanner"? Although generically, calling a colored, feathered cob-sized horse a gypsy horse is not a huge faux-paux, technically, there is a difference between Colored Cobs (many call them Irish Cobs), and gypsy horses. A traditional gypsy horse can be an Irish Cob (by their registry's definition), but most Irish Cobs are not traditional gypsy horses. A gypsy horse (frequently called a "Gypsy Vanner horse" by Americans) is a horse which is bred by gypsies, and will have generations of breeding and pedigree behind it. It will have blood from a preserved and protected line, and that blood will be known among the gypsy breeders. An Irish Cob is generally a horse without a past. Many Irish Cobs are cross-bred gypsy cobs, being partially light horse blood, and are quite refined and not well-feathered. Although some of the dealers that sell this type of horse know the sire or dam of their horse, they won't have come from the long bred and preserved lines. Any traditional gypsy horse can be registered as an Irish Cob, but most Irish Cobs can't be called traditional gypsy horses. Physically, traditional gypsy horses will have specific characteristics that gypsies are breeding for at any given time (ie, small size, "sweet" heads, compact bodies, good bone, HEAVY feather, etc).

Over in the British Isles, you see colored, feathered horses all over the place. Usually they don't have tons of feather, or won't be conformed as well as some might like. These are the horses that the gypsy lads call "trade horses". This means that they are the cheap horses that you find at auctions, and in slaughter pens. Of course, not all "trade horses" are junk, and there are people who specialize in going to sales and such to find a decent one or two, and then they work it a bit, and sell it as an "Irish Cob". This horse has a place in society, of course, and are indeed the majority of the colored, feathered "using horses" that you see around Britain and Ireland, but they shouldn't be confused with a traditional gypsy horse of good breeding and pedigree. Although the horses that have this sort of history can be wonderful for riding, or driving, or whatever, if you are serious about breeding, you would do better to consider a traditional gypsy horse. The horses without a past will almost always be cheaper than a true gypsy horse, for obvious reasons

 

[bex1984]

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Right that’s it Bodey is just a cob!

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now now, you know there is no such thing as 'just a cob'

 

[HayleyandBob]

Bodey is not just a cob :O ! hes a super cob !

and from twisteddiamonds definition (thank you for that btw) Bob is certain a gypsy cob!

 

[JoBo]

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Right that’s it Bodey is just a cob!

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now now, you know there is no such thing as 'just a cob'

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True, true! Right Bodey is ‘Bodey Cob’! Or a jumping/dressage/ XC Cob, he, he!

 

[bex1984]

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Right that’s it Bodey is just a cob!

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now now, you know there is no such thing as 'just a cob'

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True, true! Right Bodey is ‘Bodey Cob’! Or a jumping/dressage/ XC Cob, he, he!

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What he is, is a SuperCob!

 

[JoBo]

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Right that’s it Bodey is just a cob!

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now now, you know there is no such thing as 'just a cob'

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True, true! Right Bodey is ‘Bodey Cob’! Or a jumping/dressage/ XC Cob, he, he!

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What he is, is a SuperCob!

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Quadrille Cob tomorrow!

 

[Echo Bravo]

My old coloured had arab in him and he'd come over from Ireland

 

[felixlight]

Yep definitely no Welsh. With hair looks like a perfect Irish cob, which is , ofcourse, the best of all! Should we feel so jealous that he is so particulrly beautiful?

 

[Cash]

I have absolutely no idea, just knew there would be pics of Bodey, so i looked

 

[ISHmad]

Well I think you need to send him to me so that I can check this out. What a stunning boy whatever his breeding is.