Gypsy Cobs in US costing $$$$$$$$

[chickeninabun]

Just seen this website with some gypsy cobs for sale is the states. There are mares going for $35000!!
Some look lovely but some just look like my bog pony yet they want more than ten grand for them!

This is the website, scroll down for some exceptional prices....

http://http://www.gypsyhorseassociation.org/salesmare.html

Wonder if I agreed to pay shipping they'd give me $30000 for mine!

 

[tallyho!]

Link dead.... but hey it does not surprise me... americans are summat else.

 

[teamsarazara]

Yep! We sold a Gypsy Pony for about a couple grand, and the person that bought him spent 10 grand to get him to the US, just because it would be cheaper to do that!

 

[JadeWisc]

Link dead.... but hey it does not surprise me... americans are summat else.

what's this about ^^




Yes they are a lot more expensive here because they are not common here like they are there. Much like our Quarter horses are reasonable here and can be outrageous there It's all relevant to what is available

 

[tallyho!]

what's this about ^^




Yes they are a lot more expensive here because they are not common here like they are there. Much like our Quarter horses are reasonable here and can be outrageous there It's all relevant to what is available

I don't know... what do YOU think it is about?

 

[welsh horse rider]

OMG!!!!!! silly prices

 

[chickeninabun]

Sorry not sure what happened with the link. Website is www.gypsyhorseassociation.org if anyone wants a gander.

 

[JadeWisc]

OMG!!!!!! silly prices

That's how I feel sometimes when I read adverts on here Especially when you can get a very very nice young QH here for well under $1,000.


Not many people are into a lot besides paints and QHs here so they do not breed or import many of them. They are able to charge high prices for the small pockets of buyers who desire them. I think some of them are beautiful. especially the exotic colors like the chocolate dapples. There is a California breeder here who has some magnificent Gypsy Cobs and I put them up here before. I'll look for her page and come back to post it

 

[wattamus]

They all look obese? what are you paying for a one way trip to lanmi town?

 

[JadeWisc]

Here it is. LOVE her stud but others on here pointed out before that the babies for sale do not seem to hold up to his color etc. http://www.cielocelestefarm.com/

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

They all look obese?

My thoughts too!

Jade - is this a fashion on your side of the pond for traditional types to be this fat?

 

[JadeWisc]

My thoughts too!

Jade - is this a fashion on your side of the pond for traditional types to be this fat?

Don't ask me. I'm in Wisconsin and only see about 6 a year in a field while driving by

Did not look at the other link so not sure what you are looking at. I think you will find here is like there. You will get owners who look after a horses health and others who don't so much. I would highly doubt obesity is a 'fashion' in any respected horse cirlce here although some QH halter breeders have been notorious for trying to produce overly muscled animals often to the detriment of the horses health.

 

[Stacey6897]

They're really unusual over there, I rode a gypsy in the Calgary Stampede this year, everywhere we went we got double takes and looked up and down, they attracted a lot of attention!

It was these guys, http://www.northforkhorses.ca/ I'm in their fall newsletter!

 

[Toffee44]

Clearly you have never found "millionaires corner" at Appleby. Not unusual for some stallions to be bidded up to £25k.

 

[Cuffey]

Note some Clononeen horses there and well known cob sellers from NL

Google them

 

[Moomin1]

Personally can't see the interest in any gypsy cobs or coloured cobs but I know everyone has different tastes! I really would (and genuinely!!) like to understand what people see in them though looks wise - I know from experience that the temperament is usually nice! Seriously, I don't mean this to sound horrible, I would honestly like some tips on how to spot a nice and 'correct' gypsy cob type!

 

[Enfys]

They're really unusual over there, I rode a gypsy in the Calgary Stampede this year, everywhere we went we got double takes and looked up and down, they attracted a lot of attention!

It was these guys, http://www.northforkhorses.ca/ I'm in their fall newsletter!

Lucky you I bet that was an experience, did you enjoy the Stampede?

I am probably showing my age here, but do they know that they have called one of their horses after a brand of soap?

I am afraid that I can't excited about cobs, but I suppose I could rustle up a little animation if someone wanted to pay me 5 figures for them.

Tbs, take 'em or leave 'em, I have 2 in my paddocks, they are just horses, nothing special or precious about them, just horses, both OTT and both go western.

 

[Ladyinred]

Can anyone tell me what a 'bay blagdon' is please? Not a colour I have come across, is it a US definition?

 

[hairycob]

Blagdon refers to a marking pattern. White legs, splash of white on the belly. Often roaning in the coat, sometimes slight - think typical clydesdale markings. My old mare was a bay blagdon.

 

[classicalfan]

I guess they're fashionable at the mo. They go for silly prices in europe too. A few years ago you couldn't give them away!

 

[M_G]

what's this about ^^




Yes they are a lot more expensive here because they are not common here like they are there. Much like our Quarter horses are reasonable here and can be outrageous there It's all relevant to what is available

Jade how about I buy them cheap off the gypsys you find buyers over there & we go 50/50 on the huuuuge profit

 

[FanyDuChamp]

QR-haven't read whole thread.

That first mare looks very dipped in the back, even sway backed.
Some are nice though. I think rarity is why they are expensive, the pricewill drop as more are bred.
FDC

 

[Kaylum]

I guess they're fashionable at the mo. They go for silly prices in europe too. A few years ago you couldn't give them away!

Yep we used to call them rag and bone horses. How things have changed. 30 years ago we would have never dreamed of riding a clydesdale and now I have one. LOL!

 

[QueenOfCadence]

And here I was thinking you guys paid an insane amount of money for your horses XD! Here in SA you could buy a horse jumping 1.10m COMPETITIVELY for R35000 - that's only about 2916 Pound (for example: http://www.horsetrader.co.za/horse-trader/1_horses-for-sale/1400_-lizzie-mcguire.html). A pony who competes in Elementary Medium and is a SA champ for it, came 2nd in the Open Eventing Pony Rider's Champs at Shongweni and who has walked away twice as Pony Rider's Eventing Champ for about R66000 - that's only 5500 Pounds (for example: http://www.horsetrader.co.za/horse-trader/1_horses-for-sale/1399_bojangles.html#photo-2113), a TB that does open Equitation competitively and jumps 1.30m competitively (and who is only 10 years old) for about R150000 - that's only about 12500 Pounds XD (for example: http://www.horsetrader.co.za/horse-trader/1_horses-for-sale/1345_onassis.html)

Why are your horses so friggin expensive XD (probably because our exchange rate has such a huuuge difference)?

 

[Sparkles]

I don't normally post on threads relating to gypsy cobs as it irks me generally.
It's bloodlines they go mental for - not only just the cob itself...shockingly, just like our sporthorses or natives or TB's or any other breed, they do have their elites too! You'd be shocked if you knew the work and years that went into some of them to get them to that standard, let alone all the paper and DNA work that goes with it. It's not a case of buying them cheap here and making a profit I'm afraid! And...it's the cobs you don't see publically that are the real diamonds.

 

[JadeWisc]

Personally can't see the interest in any gypsy cobs or coloured cobs but I know everyone has different tastes! I really would (and genuinely!!) like to understand what people see in them though looks wise -

Well the reason I think a lot of them make me take a double take is all of the hair and feathers. I Love a thick lush and long mane and tail and when they are well groomed and in great condition they are breathtaking to me. I am not as much of a fan of the traditional black and white as I am the alternate colors though ( like I mention above) I also am a very big fan of short and stocky breeds in general and for some reason they have always appealed to me. I also love the look of Fjords, Haflingers, and Icelandics. I am an odd man out as far as tastes compared to most of the horse people I know in my area though.

Each to their own and I can see the beauty and appeal in just about any breed. A nice looking horse is a nice looking horse to me.

 

[nikCscott]

The foal on the ball is so cute x

 

[JadeWisc]

Jade how about I buy them cheap off the gypsys you find buyers over there & we go 50/50 on the huuuuge profit

We could

Horse market should be picking up here soon after 'ban' was lifted so expect horse prices here to climb even more soon.

 

[Theresa_F]

Some of them are very overpriced and many of the stallions should be gelded - they would not make the grade here.

As said, they are still fairly rare in the US, hence the prices.

If you want to see some of the best gypsy cobs in the UK, go onto the TGCA website. The TGCA is the only Association that caters for all gypsy cobs and if you can come to Keysoe on the 22nd September 2012, you will see the cream of them attending TOYS.

Most of them are not obese, the gypsy cob is a very chunky breed and a 13.2 can have 14" of bone and be very short in the back and neck which makes them look even more chunky.

This is my lad who is a bit lighter and taller at 14.3 with 9 1/2" of bone due to his breeding. Both my vet and Spillars who have weighed and assess him put him at a correct weight with a score of 5/10. His weight is 565 when they weigh him.

He is not a top quality gypsy cob, he has a bit of TB somewhere in him if you look closely, but he is a good example with a super movement and has done very well in the show ring at county level and we went to the RIHS this year and came 11th out of 30 and he was the 2nd highest placed traditional in the class.

He can also do a good dressage test, and happily goes round a 3' workers course and gives the SJs a run for their money at the local RC shows.

I can understand them not being some folks cup of tea, but I personally love them. The ones I have had have had the kindest temperament, been master jack of all trades and fun and forward going but very safe rides.

 

[MagicMelon]

I think horses in general are ridiculously priced in the US. We used to go there a lot as a kid and I always remember being shocked (even as a child!) at how expensive horses were when I flicked through their horse sale ads in the local paper! If you look at online ads, pretty much anything which can jump only about 1m is worth more than £20k!

At the end of the day if you can't get many of that particular type / breed in a country then they're expensive as they're "special". Just like Iberians are generally very expensive in this country.