Halt - having problems with mouth open/yawing/falling sideways...need expert advice

BeckyD

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Hi All

I have a lovely 6yo irish draught x (Bill) whose schooling is coming along nicely. On the whole his work is correct, with negatives being a tendency to fix the right hand side of his jaw, and to not always carry himself straight/push equally with his right hind as with his left (these are connected :rolleyes:). I have good instruction weekly or fortnightly, and we work through those issues on the occasions when they arise, and have been working a lot on self carriage and working through correctly from behind. I do lots of work on transitions outside lessons (walk/halt/walk, trot/walk/trot and trot/canter/trot), plenty of suppling and easy lateral work, and shoulder fore to get that right hind working correctly. No direct transitions yet - not sure he's ready for them ;).

The problems arise in halt transitions. This isn't just an "in the arena" problem - no matter where I try to stop - be it hacking, SJ, XC, at X in a dressage test etc, I get the same response. Bill shifts his weight on to his forehand, leans, fights, yaws his mouth, falls sideways or on very odd occasions goes backwards. :mad:

Now I know that is all going to make me sound like a total numpty who is using her hands far too much, and it's true I am STILL having to use my hands after 5 months of working really hard on these halts :(. I admit defeat. I do know how to teach halt to youngsters - I have 2 shining examples of the last 2 horses I had, who I taught to halt merely by me sitting up straighter/lightening seat. I could do this without holding the reins, even out hacking. But for some reason, Bill and I are not communicating effectively with each other. What I have tried so far, all started from a good walk, even in both reins, good rhythm:

* lighten seat, stop seatbones, brace body slightly, close legs ever so slightly, say "whoah" and closing my contact on the outside rein. I have tried doing this for months now, in the hope that by exactly repeating the same aids, he will learn to anticipate. But it just hasn't worked. I can't get to the stage where I don't have to use a considerable rein aid. And the considerable rein aid causes the fight.

So, I then moved on to:

* as above, but not actually letting him halt, i.e. catching him before he starts to fight, then asking to walk on - like a half halt really. My aim was to keep doing this until I gradually can make it more of a halt proper. I have never managed to progress beyond the initial stage though, as if I don't give again immediately I close my rein contact, he fights. Closing my rein for a split second is not enough to convince him to stop. And I can't seem to extend it any, despite weeks of trying.

* I have also tried teaching him to halt using neck strap pressure, but although I can slow him down, he still creeps forward and won't actually halt.

I have reached utter frustration point :confused:, and my next flat lesson isn't for a couple of weeks. Can anyone give me some expert advice on something new to try.

Milka chocolate and full fat coke to all :p
 
Have you tried taking your legs off?
This sometimes helps if they are still moving against the hand.

I have tried that back at the outset but then we went sideways much faster. I seem to have to keep my legs slightly on to try to keep him straight, else the forwards movement simply translates to sideways movement (bet he won't do that when I want to go sideways in dressage :rolleyes:).
 
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