Hanoverian noseband- how they work?

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I rode a mare today who had one of these. To my knowledge they are almost like a reinforced flash, with the action of keeping the bit steady.

Does anyone have any experience with these? Any further details on how they work?

Cheers!
 
sheep said:
I rode a mare today who had one of these. To my knowledge they are almost like a reinforced flash, with the action of keeping the bit steady.

Does anyone have any experience with these? Any further details on how they work?

Cheers!
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Like this?
I had to look it up, looks like a crank with a flash to me, so, cinch the mouth shut from above and below the bit then basically?
Horses for courses, if it works then all well and good.

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is not also called a crank??? :confused:

I think its so it can be worn on a double bridle as you cannot use a flash/drop noseband with a double - so keeps the mouth shut.

Someone correct me if am wrong........
 
Just looks like a crank noseband with a flash on it :confused: Ive got one of these for eowyn, its not particularly tight but she likes the padding on the NB and of course it looks gorgeous on her :D
 
Pretty much, the cavesson part is padded to allow it to be tightened a bit more than a standard cavesson. It should still buckle up on the near side though?!
 
This one didn't, the strap came over to the near side, through a roller thing, and back on itself to fasten on the off side. I guess the roller allows more leverage to make extra tight, if necessary? Maybe I'll just take a picture next time I see her haha.
 
You need to be really careful with these. The crank makes it VERY easy to over-tighten and crush the cheeks against their teeth. :( Personally I hate them but some people think they look nice....
 
Another anti-crank vote here - they CAN be overtightened to the point of making the horse's nose bulge above and below the noseband: too much in other words!
 
You described a crank noseband, continental bridles have them fastening on the off side :) There isn't much difference between that and a cavesson/flash, it just gives more scope for tightening. I have always known Hanoverian noseband to be what in UK is called drop noseband... that probably doesn't help you at all.
 
Nah, it's definitely not a drop, I understood a hanoverian to be crack + flash.

Anyway, fear not, I am always very careful with fastening things- made sure everything was nice and smooth underneath and definitely no bulging! Of course that probably rendered the crank part irrelevant.. hey ho, she still rode nicely so that's fine with me.

I am on the continent so that explains the offside fastening ;)
 
martlin said:
You described a crank noseband, continental bridles have them fastening on the off side :) There isn't much difference between that and a cavesson/flash, it just gives more scope for tightening. I have always known Hanoverian noseband to be what in UK is called drop noseband... that probably doesn't help you at all.
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I'm with you on the Hanoverian is a drop! :D
 
Originally Posted by martlin
You described a crank noseband, continental bridles have them fastening on the off side There isn't much difference between that and a cavesson/flash, it just gives more scope for tightening. I have always known Hanoverian noseband to be what in UK is called drop noseband... that probably doesn't help you at all.

mainpower said:
I'm with you on the Hanoverian is a drop! :D
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When I looked it up, because I didn't recognise it by that name, drop nosebands did come up on the more classical sites.

So, does the 'Hanoverian' label perhaps refer more to the fact that the noseband can be tightened as required rather than whether it is used in cavesson or drop position? Just pondering...
 
Enfys said:
So, does the 'Hanoverian' label perhaps refer more to the fact that the noseband can be tightened as required rather than whether it is used in cavesson or drop position? Just pondering...
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Hanoverian - drop
English - cavesson
combined - flash
Mexican - high ring grackle
cross - figure of eight (English grackle)
that's how I've been taught (on the continent)

Rhino - I haven't a clue why, but majority of continental nosebands fasten on the off side, all the big continental bridle makers make them fastened on the near side for UK market, though.
 
with white padding is hanorvarian noseband no? correct me if im wrong but crank goes back on itself equalising pressure more than a standard caverson or flash and this can have a flash attached (mine does) these tend to be padded normally padding is contrasting white which is known as hanovarian noseband...
 
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