Has anyone got any success stories of kissing spines without surgery

[keekee]

I recently bought a new horse and after a few weeks of monitoring him and coming to terms with his strange behaviour I decided to get him scoped and x-rayed which proved the worst result he had bad ulcers and mild kissing spines we have had the all clear today that the ulcers have healed and his back has been injected however he was still sore today on his check up so rehab has started and all the story’s I read are of Horses that have had surgery and are going through rehab are there any positive happy endings to horses who haven’t had surgery please help

 

[Flowerofthefen]

There are lots. I went to a tb day at Doncaster racing stables runby a lady who rehabs lots of tbs and rehomes them. They don't operate. They Taylor an exercise plan for each horse. Long reining , lunging etc. They have a high success rate.

 

[Birker2020]

Watching with interest as I've had mine medicated with steroid twice now, although the first time he only had one spot medicated (between two rubbing processes). There is next to no rehab after this procedure and according to my vet its just a case of jumping back on and seeing how the horse goes. Obviously he needs to be worked in a particular way and I'd already spent months prior to this increasing his topline and trying to build his core strength with various ground work exercises.

I don't know if mine is okay to ride as the pro rider who was going to ride him never did last week as he wasn't able to make it and I am waiting a call back to see if he can come out this week. He's basically my last chance, I don't know where to go after this.

So its all up in the air at the moment and I'm desperate to know if its worked but early indications are that he doesn't appear as 'reactive' to the saddle being done up as I lunged him twice since, in the saddle and he was fine. I won't sit on him as he decked me prior to treatment and I've totally lost my confidence but I know I've put everything into getting him right and if it doesn't work he will be retired as its not his fault.

I've ridden him about 15 times since buying him last October due to all the problems - he had a number of other issues, very sore SI caused by an accident, had his coffin joints medicated too, SI and KS and hind suspensories are all compensatory issues to each other, its hard to know which came first. He's an ex comp horse who has had an extensive competition record but has no more arthritic changes than a horse of that age given his history but we believe he had a prior condition and shouldn't have passed a five stage vetting.

 

[sbloom]

There will be success stories but they'll be people that have gone "off piste", I'd recommend you look here https://www.facebook.com/wildmagicllc, or perhaps here https://www.facebook.com/groups/5290197854358298 though the first one (she runs a master class group which is paid membership, accessed via her website) is the one I'd say is absolutely transformative and not just for KS or other rehab, but in connection to the horse.

 

[pistolpete]

The fabulous Connie I part share is one. 19 now. Was out of work for two years but slowly rehabbed into full work. Became a medium dressage pony!

 

[Green Bean]

I believe I have a success story of sorts. My horse was diagnosed with two KS 3 years ago. She was injected and had a short course of Danilon then it was down to correct working to 'lift the back'. Two and a half years after first diagnosis, I noticed she wasn't herself again so sent her in for xrays again. This time she received 5 injections (I feel the vet should have done the five the first time round). This was 6 months ago and she is back to her 'normal' self again. From what my vet has said, it is best to have the horse injected every two years. So a bit routine like you would do hocks, but every two years not every six months. I have read about enough horror stories about surgery and wouldn't consider it under any circumstances.

 

[Barton Bounty]

Watching with interest as I've had mine medicated with steroid twice now, although the first time he only had one spot medicated (between two rubbing processes). There is next to no rehab after this procedure and according to my vet its just a case of jumping back on and seeing how the horse goes. Obviously he needs to be worked in a particular way and I'd already spent months prior to this increasing his topline and trying to build his core strength with various ground work exercises.

I don't know if mine is okay to ride as the pro rider who was going to ride him never did last week as he wasn't able to make it and I am waiting a call back to see if he can come out this week. He's basically my last chance, I don't know where to go after this.

So its all up in the air at the moment and I'm desperate to know if its worked but early indications are that he doesn't appear as 'reactive' to the saddle being done up as I lunged him twice since, in the saddle and he was fine. I won't sit on him as he decked me prior to treatment and I've totally lost my confidence but I know I've put everything into getting him right and if it doesn't work he will be retired as its not his fault.

I've ridden him about 15 times since buying him last October due to all the problems - he had a number of other issues, very sore SI caused by an accident, had his coffin joints medicated too, SI and KS and hind suspensories are all compensatory issues to each other, its hard to know which came first. He's an ex comp horse who has had an extensive competition record but has no more arthritic changes than a horse of that age given his history but we believe he had a prior condition and shouldn't have passed a five stage vetting.

@Green Bean said 5 injections, thats surely worth a try

 

[sbloom]

This might be a controversial, and "purist" point of view, but to me injections are a window of opportunity to rehab the cause of the problem, where the horse is pain free for a short time due to the medication so should move at least freely if not correctly. There's "lift the back" which many head-down type approaches (including gadgets) do, and there's lifting the thoracic sling. It's something that doesn't seem widely discussed, even in vet and bodyworker circles. I don't think I'd want to be reinjecting every 2 years let alone 6 months.

 

[Barton Bounty]

This might be a controversial, and "purist" point of view, but to me injections are a window of opportunity to rehab the cause of the problem, where the horse is pain free for a short time due to the medication so should move at least freely if not correctly. There's "lift the back" which many head-down type approaches (including gadgets) do, and there's lifting the thoracic sling. It's something that doesn't seem widely discussed, even in vet and bodyworker circles. I don't think I'd want to be reinjecting every 2 years let alone 6 months.

Elastic harbridge is a fave of mine just to gently lower and muscle up ,

 

[ycbm]

Check out Keira 8888's posts, she has rehabbed hers very successfully.
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